Posts by ttdtt

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Is Satan really the bad guy in story of creation?

by evilApostate in

i wanted to take an objective look at satan in the story of creation.

this is not meant to offend those of you who are still christians.

i'm agnostic btw.

ttdtt

So instead of the JW liturgy that "Satan Lied to and Tricked Eve" God himself says that all Satan said was truthful.

At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die. 5 For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad.”

Jehovah God then said: “Here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad. Now in order that he may not put his hand out and take fruit also from the tree of life and eat and live forever,

God also gave man a head start on WAR and KILLING by introducing the first weapon of mass destruction. The Sword! Now even in Star Trek they would never do that cuz it's against the Prime Directive.

So he drove the man out, and he posted at the east of the garden of Eʹden the cherubs and the flaming blade of a sword that was turning continuously to guard the way to the tree of life.

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How about prayers being used as a talk?

by NikL in

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friends

another thread on here made me think of it.. its a personal peeve of mine.. you bow your head in prayer and the brother says thinks like thank you for the lessons we learned today like bla bla bla and for that wonderful point about yadda yadda yadda.

jehovah we know that etc etc etc therefore we must...well you get the gist.and on and on it goes.

absolutely drives me mad..

ttdtt

They should end each prayer with:

"Thank you Jehober, even though we now know that the GB can be wrong when they explain the bible, and that what we believe today will probably be changed next week, so in effect we have had FALSE worship for 100 years running, we are still happy to give you our money, lives, and build the GB a great retirement complex."

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Something funny about Armageddon

by evilApostate in

years ago, when i was still a publisher, i had a very interesting conversation with a lady in the field service.

we were talking about punishment for sin and so on.

she believed in hellfire.

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This is funnier.

132,000.000 BIRTHS per year.

Net Gain in JWs per year 118,000

Jehober is so loving that to save 118K he is willing to Kill and extra 131,882.000 People EVERY YEAR!

Praise the super smart and all loving doG Jehober.

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IBM CEO Sends Letter to President-elect Donald Trump

by Heaven in

link to the letter.. has anyone ever heard or seen this happen before?

for those of you who can't go to the site, here is the content: .

ibm ceo ginni rometty's letter to the u.s. president-elect.

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Trump does not like to read. He will just ask Steve Bannon to summarize it for him, and Steve will say - IBM says you are great and end Obamacare, medicaid, medicare, and end welfare. Also why not kill all the jews while we are at it.

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How many times jehovah is said in a prayer

by Normalfulla in

so there was this particular elder in my hall who when giving a prayer would say "jehovah" waaaay to much it was ridiculous, we ended up having a count every time he gave prayer, most of the time it was 15-18 but once he topped 20, if u say it out loud 20 times you'll see how weird it is, like when do you ever in a conversation say someone's name that many times in 2 or so minutes,!

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OMG! There are 2 elders in my hall (that I don't go to anymore) who said Jehovah all the time in prayer.

It was so strange sounding, and odd, like maybe they thought god didnt know his name? If you did this in regular conversation the person you talked to would thing you were strange.

"Hi Joe, you know I was thinking Joe I would like to do something nice. Joe I know you can help me Joe, but I want to know that you Joe would be interested. Now Joe I know that just because I ask you Joe to help, you may not do it Joe." And on and on.

OMG!!! IT DROVE ME CRAZY.

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Memorial 2017

by wifibandit in

instead of making a new thread for every little thing related to memorial 2017, i'm going to try to post here.

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and to start us off.... cart artwork for 2017 memorial invitations.

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"Make the Earth Great Again" was there other choice - but were afraid of getting sued.

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This week's bs, bible study help

by Normalfulla in

hi all , because i'm useless and can't be bothered studying, i need some rebuttals for the excuses given in this week's bs , (i love how the acronym matches its origin) my uber dub father pleaded with me to study this week's book study as it addresses my issues with them being directed by holy spirit etc and how jah reveals things progressively , problem is i know there's a great argument to put fwd with proper preparation but i'm onto my 2nd drink of the evening and can't be assed , please unload some smoking guns i can take with me tomorrow .

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chur.

ttdtt

Ask him WHY would god ever give his people WRONG information? Why would he reveal something he knows is wrong?

Why did it take 100 Years to identify the FDS (the only important thing about 1914-1919? Would that not have been right from the beginning?

If its progressive - why did some many things go back and forth?

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This should make most reasonable people stop believing in the Bible as infallible

by ILoveTTATT2 in

i think that few parts of the bible can make you atheist or at least agnostic or at least kill your belief in the bible as infallible or the work of a loving god as comparing 2 samuel 24 with 1 chronicles 21. most people focus on the 1st verse, but there are at least 4 major and 1 minor contradiction in the chapter (they are parallel accounts).in the new world translation, 2 samuel 24 starts like this:.

24 and again the anger of jehovah came to be hot against israel, when one incited david against them, saying: “go, take a count of israel and judah.” .

notice that it is an impersonal "one" who incited david to do the census.

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How about this one - Moses is given full credit for writing Deuteronomy.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001163

How did he write about his death and burial and how no one knows where his grave it till this day?

Deut 34: 5 After that Moses the servant of Jehovah died there in the land of Moʹab just as Jehovah had said.+ 6 He buried him in the valley in the land of Moʹab, opposite Beth-peʹor, and nobody knows where his grave is down to this day.+ 7 Moses was 120 years old at his death.+ His eyes had not grown dim, and his strength had not departed. 8 The people of Israel wept for Moses on the desert plains of Moʹab for 30 days.+ Then the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were completed.

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1000 Years is Like 1 Day?

by Sorry in

anyone else hear about this.

as all j-dubs know, whenever someone complains about how long the "new system" is taking too arrive, they use the excuse that jehovah works on his own time.

quite a few times during the public talks, i've heard speakers say the phrase "1000 years to us is only one day to jehovah" (my parents never stop talking about this).

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Rest of the scripture says - "a day is like a 1000 years"

So at best the scriptures means time is irrelevant but I have never heard the 2nd half of the scripture mentioned on the platform (except by me).

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Why are JWs so sensitive to criticism?

by Half banana in

i remember a roman catholic priest acknowledging on the bbc that the outrageously anti-clerical tv comedy father ted was a humorous mocking of his church but an acceptable thing.. try mocking the jw religion to a believer and the result is so very different.. just why is it that jehovah's witnesses can never take even the faintest hint of criticism of their religion?.

ttdtt

In general - people with weak arguments tend to react emotionally and oftentimes belligerent when challenges.

I dont know a single JW who could use the bible to explain 1914 - overlapping generations - or the scriptural justification for a GB.