dropoffyourkeylee
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News of fires out of control in California
by ballistic inhope everyone near to the region affected in california is ok. it's shocking to hear of the destruction.
these affected areas are some of the places i visited when i came on a tour of the us.
malibu, santa barbera, la, santa monica, hollywood and so on..
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dropoffyourkeylee
Maybe there’s nothing that can be done to mitigate this type of disaster, but I could see changes in laws/ fire prevention. Minimum limits on reservoirs, fire breaks, controlled burns, construction materials, etc. -
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2024 Annual Meeting Doctrinal Change
by Listener ina change to their doctrine came from jackson.
this isn't a transcript of his whole speech but i thought i would try and get some of his main speech in writing.. at around 1hr26 minutes he starts talking about some dangerous thinking in feeling there is some wiggle room in regards to the schedule for the gt.
but you see, we need to be careful about what we are thinking about the number of anointed ones left on earth.
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dropoffyourkeylee
It is ironic that they discourage college, but need money. The ones with education and good jobs are the ones who have money to donate. It’s an inherent contradiction. The LDS figured it out long ago, but the WT just doesn’t get it
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WT HQ is never proactive, they are reactive to everything put out showing their blatant hypocrisy and abject stupidity
by WingCommander ina few on here (and of course many on the ex-jw reddit forum) have mentioned that wt hq just recently (like in the past couple months) put out a video warning against the praising of jw actors, taking photos with them, etc.
to not do it anymore.
it was narrated by geoffrey jackson.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I wonder if the masturbation-video guy gets many photo requests.
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The Curious Case of Cameroon in Africa in the World Report
by LaFrancia inwe know that in africa warwick/watchtower is adopting a policy of more congregations with fewer publishers in each congregation.
this explains the growth of congregations in the 2024 world report.. cameroon world report 2019 vs. 2024.. with the same number of publishers the congregations grew by about 13%.. will there be many more curious cases out there?.
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dropoffyourkeylee
It could be that they are mostly newly converted and there weren’t enough elders to make the extra congregations.
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Annual Report
by St George of England inthe latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.
george.
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dropoffyourkeylee
The number of people self-identifying as JWs, which is what is reflected in census data, exceeds the number of people who are click-the-box publishers. There are loads of people out there who come only to the Memorial, but are former publishers/ family no longer actively associating who probably consider themselves JWs and self-identify as such.
I think an argument can be made that the life cycle of the JW religion in a given country goes through a demonstrable process occurring over several generations.
1) First generation of believers commit to the lifestyle and are relatively successful in raising their children in the same faith. (high growth rates, 1950's through '80s in the US) (I realize the religion had a long history before the 1950s, but it went through a re-invention post-Rutherford, in my opinion)
2) Second generation commit at first,but by the time they are in early middle age and having to raise their own children, stay in nominally but realize they are screwed and are glad to see their kids decide on their own to leave.(still showing growth, 90's through 2010's)
3) Third generation is just hanging around and are non-committal, though they still may self-identify and show up to memorial to appease grandparents and parents. (2010's until present, stagnation)
The US is in stage 3. Some of the African nations like Congo and Nigeria are still in stage 1, hence the vibrant growth. Japan is entering stage 3, Mexico is in stage 2 heading into 3.
Where stage 4 will lead us in coming years I don't know.
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How are new Servants and Elders appointed?
by no-zombie innow that we have the tick-a-box field service reporting method, how are brothers measured fit for an appointment as a ms or elder?
has there been clarification in any of the recent elders schools or in meetings with the co?.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I think there was a change in the last few years about how they are appointed.
Previously: CO's meeting with elders consider a candidate and the CO makes a recommendation to the WT branch. The candidate is appointed after receiving the approval from the branch.
Now: CO's meeting with elders consider a candidate and the CO makes the final decision and appointment. The branch is not part of the decision. The servant is appointed almost immediately.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I think this change is pretty recent (in the last few years)
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Annual Report
by St George of England inthe latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.
george.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I think the change of reporting to check-a-box came with the 2023 Annual meeting. Someone correct me if I am wrong
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1922 Cedar Point Ohio Convention
by Nambo ini recall reading that daniel 12 verse 12 ( 12 blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.
), was claimed to have been fulfilled by the cedar point ohio convention in 1922.. can anybody recall which publications this claim was published in please?.
or even better, a screen shot.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Back in the day, Cedar Point was a very popular vacation spot with facilities for large crowds. Good rail service (before the era of flight and before car ownership and driveable roads), hotels, buildings available for speeches, etc. It was kind of like the Disney World of the time. There is still an amusement park there of considerable size. I've never been to it, but I know people who have.
Curiously, the 1931 Convention where they adoped the JW name was also in Ohio, at the Ohio State Fairgrounds in Columbus. The building where the name was adopted is still standing and is now a horse barn where the equestrian events are held. I went in there once to watch a horse competition and as I sat there smelling the horse crap I thought it quite fitting.
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My story of becoming a circuit overseer after Kin Suen visited our congregation.
by ExCircuitOverseer inhere is my story of becoming a missionary after having kin suen (pronounced “shin”) as my circuit overseer.
my father wanted me to go to college, but since he wasn’t a witness, i knew he just didn’t understand how close we were to the end.
i had actually become a circuit overseer!
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dropoffyourkeylee
I knew witnesses Bible knowledge isn't as good as we think but even a CO?!
Likewise, makes me wonder about the veracity of the OP
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My story of becoming a circuit overseer after Kin Suen visited our congregation.
by ExCircuitOverseer inhere is my story of becoming a missionary after having kin suen (pronounced “shin”) as my circuit overseer.
my father wanted me to go to college, but since he wasn’t a witness, i knew he just didn’t understand how close we were to the end.
i had actually become a circuit overseer!
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dropoffyourkeylee
Thanks for sharing your life story!
I don't know of Suen, but I have observed a similar pattern many times in the JW world. The WT has a way of attracting a certain type of person who has a phenomenal way of reaching people. It is definitely a gift, and these ones would make great salesmen or politicians. They have a way of speaking with the greatest of confidence and can sell iceboxes to to the Eskimo. It's more of a motivational sales skill rather than a religious one. The WT would have collapsed many times over the years if not for these slick salesmen.
Other organizations have the same sort of person. I watched a video recently about a MLM scheme from one of their motivational sales meetings, and I thought, Yep, it's the same thing.