Posts by dropoffyourkeylee

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The Governing Body have a lack of self awareness in this discussion

by ukpimo in

david splane's infamous pandemic "land of the living" speech will be shown at the midweek meeting in 2 weeks.. https://www.jw.org/en/library/jw-meeting-workbook/march-april-2025-mwb/life-and-ministry-meeting-schedule-for-march-3-9-2025/.

in this item,.

7. demonstrate trust in jehovah’s organization.

dropoffyourkeylee

Wow Vhoven,

How Malefant can make those statements and not see the contradictions is beyond me. Families don't talk to each other because of... 'WT policies of disfellowshipping' is what he should say.

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When JW's say they are 'In the truth'...

by Ron.W. in

where did this phrase 'in the truth' come from?.

it's been around as long as i can remember.

is it from the time they were promoting 'the truth shall make you free' book back in 1943?

dropoffyourkeylee

I seem to recall that Ray Franz addressed this question in one of his books. I think he said that it came from the Russell-era's interpretation of 'present truth' which was specific wording in a Bible verse from the King James. 'Stand fast in present truth'.

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"Mailing Tracts" from 1919

by vienne in

for a research project, i need clear scans of all of the 1919 small-sized tracts meant for through the mail witnessing.

can you help?

dropoffyourkeylee

I didn't know there was such a thing. I'd be interested in seeing some.

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144,000 + 1 kings

by moomanchu in

jw
friends

i wonder why so many kings are needed for the millennial reign?

the almighty governing body says 24,000,000,000 people combined from those resurrected and the survivors of the big 'a' could make it into paradise.

that gives you 1 king for every 166,665 persons.

dropoffyourkeylee

I'm with Blondie on this one. Understanding the WT beliefs means knowing the history of the beliefs, how they have evolved, and what influenced those evolutionary changes. Just looking at the current teachings and how they don't make sense is missing the overall understanding that comes with knowing the history.

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Characteristics of a Cult - Heaven's Gate

by dropoffyourkeylee in

chacteristics of a cult - by my count, wt ticks 9 of the 12 boxes.

last night i watched a really interesting video (link below) put out by an ex-mormon site discussing the heaven's gate cult.

the person interviewed had a unique perspective in that he had firsthand contact with that group, specifically the house they lived in and the aftermath.

dropoffyourkeylee

CHACTERISTICS OF A CULT - by my count, WT ticks 9 of the 12 boxes

Last night I watched a really interesting video (link below) put out by an ex-Mormon site discussing the Heaven's Gate Cult. The person interviewed had a unique perspective in that he had firsthand contact with that group, specifically the house they lived in and the aftermath. Steven Hassan is mentioned several times, as well as the JWs at least once. The video is rather long, but well worth viewing for anyone interested in cults and where the JWs may lie on the cult spectrum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkvfqy1Qs-M

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They are running out of people to do their stuff.

by liam in

this is the watchtower study article being studied today.

so it’s the current new light!.

what are the new qualifications to be an “elder-aka older man...and circuit overseer?.

dropoffyourkeylee

They'll open MS and eventually elder to women. It will take a while, but in my opinion it is inevitable

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American Primeval and the Mormons

by Simon in

just finished season 1 on netflix.. holy crap, i had no idea of the history of the mormons!.

i always thought they were like the jws, or the quakers, but they were full on fascists committing massacres.. i'm sure they are hating having more people be aware of their past, but i gotta say, it is more event-filled than the jw history..

dropoffyourkeylee

If it wasn't for Knorr taking the religion to the world

A good observation. Knorr was more of a businessman than a theologian or religious leader. Seems like he thought of the JW religion like it was a multi-national business. It wan't a coincidence that they created Gilead and started sending out missionaries within just a year or two of his taking the presidency of the WT

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"instructions that aren't sound by a human standpoint"

by mikeflood in

what could be "an instruction not sound by a human standpoint"?.

i'm going by dissolving their legal entities...any guesses?.

dropoffyourkeylee

I think a lot of it has to do with the closing/sale of Kingdom Halls, making people drive an hour or more to meetings. Makes no sense to the average JW, especially where they donated their own hard earned money to build the damn things in the first place.

I don't see going back to private homes, at least in the US, due to liability/zoning/parking/ADA issues.

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My Beliefs After Leaving the Watchtower

by KalebOutWest in

i tend to keep my personal beliefs separate from my posts.. i know that is often different from others as their posts as often one and the same with their opinions.

i think that is good.

you get to learn a lot about people that way.

dropoffyourkeylee

Thanks KOW,

There are a handful of posters whose posts I always take time to read, and you are one of them.

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News of fires out of control in California

by ballistic in

jw
friends

hope everyone near to the region affected in california is ok. it's shocking to hear of the destruction.

these affected areas are some of the places i visited when i came on a tour of the us.

malibu, santa barbera, la, santa monica, hollywood and so on..

dropoffyourkeylee

Maybe there’s nothing that can be done to mitigate this type of disaster, but I could see changes in laws/ fire prevention. Minimum limits on reservoirs, fire breaks, controlled burns, construction materials, etc.