I heard a number of Fred Franz's talks. Mainly because we lived in the eastern US, and my brother was in Bethel from '76-'80. We would go to attend some of the NY conventions, and other places on the East Coast. That is where you would most likely hear FW Franz, as he didn't have to travel very far. If you went to one of the conventions at the Belmont Race Track you were nearly guaranteed to hear him. All his talks kind of sounded the same. He was nearly blind in his later years, so he didn't use notes. The result was a sort of rambling, free-association style of speaking. JWs at the time thought he was sort of a genius or something. He had a way of sounding like he was brilliant, but in reality he was just bat-sh crazy.
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F. W. Franz epic talk May 11, 1975 (clip)
by lastmanstanding inhttps://drive.google.com/open?id=1vwxeenkkoary-efyhnt75iqmagx0yywf.
f. w. franz "times in which we are particularly interested" may 11, 1975. ;introduced by kenneth a. little, a much younger man than now for sure.. the clip is 8 minutes.. unfortunately, some idiot recorded over part of this day many years ago.
i am hoping to find another copy in the box..
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F. W. Franz epic talk May 11, 1975 (clip)
by lastmanstanding inhttps://drive.google.com/open?id=1vwxeenkkoary-efyhnt75iqmagx0yywf.
f. w. franz "times in which we are particularly interested" may 11, 1975. ;introduced by kenneth a. little, a much younger man than now for sure.. the clip is 8 minutes.. unfortunately, some idiot recorded over part of this day many years ago.
i am hoping to find another copy in the box..
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dropoffyourkeylee
Thanks for posting. I remember hearing his talks.
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Craziest thing you ever saw in a KH?
by dubstepped ini did this in my facebook group for my podcast and it was fun.. so what's the craziest thing you ever saw?.
for me it was watching a brother have a heart attack during the meeting in the auditorium.
i was a kid and noticed him shaking and acting strange.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I passed out myself one time, but I was sitting in the back because of feeling lightheaded. I gave my wife quite a scare.
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Jephthah's Daughter
by Sea Breeze ini have noticed that the foolishness of jephthah's vow to sacrifice his daughter gets bandied around a lot as somehow approved of by god.
i never could understand how people could come to this conclusion.
if i wrote about something terrible that my son had done, that doesn't mean that i am for that thing.
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dropoffyourkeylee
So was it a human sacrifice, or a devotion to the Lord, like the WT maintains?
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More on Maryland Conventions, 1970-1975! Do you Remember?
by Atlantis in1970 circuit assembly program, sherwood high school, maryland.. .
rented schools were the accepted places for assemblies before 1970. the high school was used all the time.
the last one in a school in maryland came in january 2,3,4 1970.. .
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dropoffyourkeylee
Brother Couch was big at Bethel back then. It seems to me he was a Gilead instructor, though I could be thinking of someone else.
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My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side
by Kosonen inbrothers and sisters associated with the watchtower society may 9, 2020. i have tried to inform you of the necessary adjustments you ought to take in order to truly be in the truth.
but my efforts have remained fruitless.
you well know the biblical procedure.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Good luck Koso.
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Memories of Maryland Conventions!
by Atlantis inposting for brother x. petra!.
if you were a child during the years of 1960 to 1970, the question isn't; do you remember these conventions?
the question is; how could you forget?
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dropoffyourkeylee
Yes, one of them was Brother Silloway ( I might have the spelling wrong). He was mentioned in the '75 yearbook, I believe. He had been tarred and feathered back during WWI. When I remember him he was nearly ninety and didn't say much. He partook at the memorial and that's about it, as I recall.
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Memories of Maryland Conventions!
by Atlantis inposting for brother x. petra!.
if you were a child during the years of 1960 to 1970, the question isn't; do you remember these conventions?
the question is; how could you forget?
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dropoffyourkeylee
I only recognize one name from the 1969 Laurel program, a Brother Adwell who was in the Annapolis MD congregation we attended for a while in the '69- '70 period. I forget the name of the congregation, but it had some real oldtimers there who dated back to the Russell days.
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Watchtower admits false prophesy in Court of Law!
by digderidoo ina false prophesy was promulgated?
q. it had to be accepted by jehovah's witnesses?
q. error?
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dropoffyourkeylee
I used to have a copy of the full transcript. I found it fascinating. I believe it shows that the WT leadership was bound and determined for the ten to fifteen years after WW2 to get their people, particularly men in either Bethel or in 'pioneer' work, registered officially as 'ministers'. This took some back pedalling and changing of their messaging. For instance, to qualify as a 'religion', they had to get past their own past statements against 'organized religion', so they changed it to 'true' religion and 'false' religion. Their statements previously that they 'had no creed', had to change to 'yes, we have defined beliefs which are obligatory to believe'. The 'colporter' role had to be eliminated because it was simply a salesman, so presto, a new designation appears, a 'pioneer'. The 'ministry school' was invented (it started in the beginning just for the Bethel staff) to be able to say that their 'ministers' had a seminary-like education. Gilead School was created to get their missionaries a credential to get into countries with a missionary status. All of it was motivated, I believe, solely to satisfy court and legal requirements. That's my theory anyway, I have no proof, but reading of the Walsh case convinced me of it.
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An emerging new global authority at how it will affect believers
by Kosonen ingood day believing brothers and sisters, .
i have to inform about latest information concerning the set up of a global authority.
we have waited un to be empowered.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Oh my.