Posts by dropoffyourkeylee

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Awake Magazine - No Longer Being Printed?

by JWTom in

jw
friends

someone made reference in another post that the awake magazine had ceased publication.

maybe i missed it since i have not been on here as much in the last 6 months.

is this true?

dropoffyourkeylee

I don't recall the exact dates, but the Awake was first published I think about the time of WW2 or shortly afterwards. In the Russell days there was just the Watchtower. Russell had stated he only wanted one magazine; it seems to me that he may have even had it in his 'will' that there would only be one magazine, hence when Rutherford started the Golden Age there was a bit of a brouhaha. Then the Golden Age ceased and was replaced by Consolation for a while. Only after Rutherford died Consolation was replaced by Awake.

Maybe they are going to replace the Awake with something else, completely digital probably.

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1969 "fact": You will never grow old in this present system of things

by Ding in

awake!

"if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

because all the evidence in fulfillment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years... therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.

dropoffyourkeylee

The reason this keeps coming up is that people were hurt by it. Anyone who made a choice in life at the time based on the false expectation (which was invented by and fostered by the Watchtower organization and its representatives) was hurt. There are precious life resources that are spent in one way or another. Some who decided to not get married and have children are now facing their elder years without the joys of children and grandchildren. Others missed out on careers they would have found fulfilling. Others decided to not pursue something they had a great talent for, such as music, poetry, etc and instead spent those years knocking on doors chasing a false dream.

The WT society earned my contempt when in my twenties, I realized that my decision to not go to college hurt me, and it was all based on their false beliefs.

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The Bible and its use of excesses beggars belief ?

by smiddy3 in

how many accounts of the bibles use of excesses can you recall ?

i will start off with a favourit of mine.. the inauguration of solomons temple and the sacrifices offered .2chron.7 :4-5 , 22,000 cattle and 120,000 sheep ?

c,mon.

dropoffyourkeylee

Yes, a lot of the figures in the Bible are exaggerations, or rough estimates made decades or even centuries after the event. In all fairness though, just about all the written records of ancient history did the same thing. Herodotus, Josephus, they all never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

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What Do You Want To Talk About Regarding Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by minimus in

jw
friends

we do talk a lot about how this site doesn’t center on all things jw.

so what would you like to discuss?.

the floor is yours..

dropoffyourkeylee

What they call field service now under COVID consists of chatting a couple of hours on zoom while hand writing letters in the US mail. It is hopelessly mind numbing and boring. How long can they possibly keep this up without people quitting? How can they call it 'ministry'? I think the basic core activity (field service) that defines the JWs is at risk and it will force a fundamental change in the dynamics of the religion going forward.

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1969 "fact": You will never grow old in this present system of things

by Ding in

awake!

"if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

because all the evidence in fulfillment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years... therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.

dropoffyourkeylee

I remember those times (I was 8 in '69), and can vouch for the fact that this mentality was the prevailing attitude and belief of the Witnesses at the time. Virtually everyone believed it. Assembly talks, Circuit Servant talks, all of it pounded the ideas in; most of it never ended up in print. Fortunately a few things were printed (like this Awake article) or otherwise recorded so we have some proof of what was taught.

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May JW Broaadcast - so bad, "it's not even wrong"

by FFGhost in

don't know how many of y'all still watch it.. this month's topic is "the king of the north" - cook goes into monotonous detail over the jw interpretation about rome, germany, ussr, russia, etc.. leaving aside for other commentators the emotionally manipulative videos of jws in russian holding cells, the tearjerker interviews, the god-awful stiffness of cook (i suspect he has never genuinely smiled, much less laughed, in his 60+ years), just thought i'd comment on one topic.. the centerpiece of the program is a "morning worship" monologue from splane.

let's again just leave to the side the dude's pomposity, smugness, and inflated sense of his own genius, and think about this part of his monologue.. he was tracing the history of the "king of the north" and talked about how "britain" (not england, not the united kingdom, not great britain, but "britain" - no idea why they have that fixation - anyway...) became the kotn in the 19th century.. paraphrasing his comments: "britain would not have become kotn if france had its way.

france was much wealthier and more powerful, but at the battle of waterloo, britain defeated france.

dropoffyourkeylee

In the US, bad weather on Election day has been interpreted to be good for Republicans (conservative) and bad for Democrats (liberal). Especially true for the South, where on Election day the weather is carefully watched due to the larger percentage of African American voters (more often Democrat).

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May JW Broaadcast - so bad, "it's not even wrong"

by FFGhost in

don't know how many of y'all still watch it.. this month's topic is "the king of the north" - cook goes into monotonous detail over the jw interpretation about rome, germany, ussr, russia, etc.. leaving aside for other commentators the emotionally manipulative videos of jws in russian holding cells, the tearjerker interviews, the god-awful stiffness of cook (i suspect he has never genuinely smiled, much less laughed, in his 60+ years), just thought i'd comment on one topic.. the centerpiece of the program is a "morning worship" monologue from splane.

let's again just leave to the side the dude's pomposity, smugness, and inflated sense of his own genius, and think about this part of his monologue.. he was tracing the history of the "king of the north" and talked about how "britain" (not england, not the united kingdom, not great britain, but "britain" - no idea why they have that fixation - anyway...) became the kotn in the 19th century.. paraphrasing his comments: "britain would not have become kotn if france had its way.

france was much wealthier and more powerful, but at the battle of waterloo, britain defeated france.

dropoffyourkeylee

I overheard parts of the broadcast as the wife was listening to it. It sounded like a third grader explaining to his mom what he heard in history class.

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Are Watchtower library CD's of any use.

by still wondering in

i have 8 watchtower library cd's from 1997 to 2009 and barbara anderson's "secrets of paedophilia" cd which i no longer require.

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if anyone wants them in the uk please let me know and i will send them for free rather than dump them..

dropoffyourkeylee

good for skeet shooting

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Art work in the 1933 book riches

by mickbobcat in

i picked this book up at a flea market for three bucks.

the art work is great.

i love the satan and .

dropoffyourkeylee

I'm pretty sure the book 'Creation' referred to was a Rutherford book from the '30s, not 1914 as cited. Russell had a book called 'The New Creation', but the one with the offensive picture was a Rutherford-era book.

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An American Religion?

by no-zombie in

i have a question.. have every member of the governing body (past and present) been american citizens?.

while i understand that some may have been born outside of the us, ultimately to serve in the world hq long term, i imagine that they all had to become 'americans'?.

no zombie.

dropoffyourkeylee

a Good question.

I am going to guess no, because the JWs in the past have been hesitant to commit to the Oath of Allegiance. I honestly don't know where they are now on it, maybe it is a conscience matter nowadays, but in the past it was not allowed for JWs.