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  What Did You Think Of The Songs Sung At The Kingdom Hall?

  by minimus in

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  when i was younger we had song books and i recall that some of the songs were pretty catchy.

  then they revised it took some of those songs out, and added more.

  i have to admit some songs were pretty good.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  My personal theories:

  The old pink 1966 songbook I grew up with had a lot of songs that sounded a lot like traditional hymns, in fact I think some of the tunes may have been the same as hymns with different words. The feel produced was a familiar and comfortable one to the American protestant (non-Catholic) heartland from which the WT movement got its roots. Since then a few things in the landscape have changed. Overseas growth and outreach to non-protestant backgrounds meant that the songs didn't seem familiar to potential converts. Some of the songs and/or tunes were written by non-JW or worse yet, ex-JWs (anathema to JWs). There may have been copyright issues for some of the music. Also, some of the old words, while seemingly innocuous to some, probably came across as disturbing in other areas of the world (her breasts are like towers; bees that were molested; etc).

  The various songs and songbooks introduced starting in the '80's I think have been their attempt to modernize and get away from the US hymn-feel. Other churches have done the same (ie Christian rock). I don't think the WT had been entirely successful in their attempts, but I think that is where they are going. (I personally don't care for most of the new tunes, although a couple of them are not too bad)
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  Any Old-Timers Remember this Kingdom Melody?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. beliefs

  we used to sing a slow song in the late 60's and early 70's that went something like : "don't be afraid of them that can kill the body buy cannot kill the soul" .... or something like that.does anyone remember that one?.

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  It is #55 now, but the words have been tamed down a bit.
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  Are JWs still reporting time?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. bible

  here are some little child encouragers at work.. .

  how do they report time since the halls closed?.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I think all the reporting anymore is done by either phone, text, email, or some other electronic format. There is plenty of service time reported, but the effectiveness of it has to be questionable. My wife spends about three hours in the mornings 2-3 times a week writing letters, with an open zoom session going on with 4-5 others. A lot of chatting going on with some letter writing.
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  Remembering Rutherford

  by Sea Breeze in

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  he seems to me to be the angriest and most ill-tempered of all the wt presidents, especially after his stint in prison and failed prophecies.. “regarding his misguided statements as to what we could expect in 1925, he [rutherford] once confessed to us at bethel, “i made an ass of myself.”” watchtower 1984 oct 1 p.24.

  rutherford died at beth sarim on january 8, 1942, at the age of 72.

  [220] cause of death was...carcinoma of the rectum..."[21] .

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  The transition from booksellers to non- profit distributers for donation ( at least in the US) was a long and torturous one. They definitely were book sellers for decades through the ‘30’s at least. At some point in the ‘40’s they morphed into ‘collect the printing cost’, probably in response to court cases to evade laws on soliciting. In about 1990 they went to donations only for all literature (US), again for legal reasons to avoid taxation.
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  Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck,,,,do you care about them?

  by minimus in

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  i’m sick and tired of seeing pictures and articles about their rekindled romance.

  who cares???

  do you enjoy seeing news articles about celebrity daters?.

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  When I see articles like that, 90% of the time I have no idea who they are. I have to google the name.
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  Which English Translations of the Bible are you Favorites, and Why?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  which english translations of the bible are you favorites, and why?

  my favorites include the (english) revised version bible (of 1881-1885) and its apocrypha (of 1898), the american revised version bible (of 1898, it close to the american standard version), the american standard version bible (of 1901), the new american standard bible - updated edition, the new revised standard version bible with the apocrypha, the complete bible: an american translation (it includes the apocrypha), and the twentieth century new testament.

  i also use others beside those.. they are my favorites because i consider them to be highly accurate, and also they are either very literal (but not so literal as to be hard to understand) or they use functional equivalence.

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  Speaking of Concordances, I have an 'Englishman's Greek Concordance' purchased some years ago. It shows all the places where a Greek word is used, irrespective of any particular translation. It dates to the 1800's, and I'm sure there are better computer-based ways now to do the same thing, but I still like it. It does require at least enough grasp of the Greek letters to read the words and find them in Greek-alphabetic order. I have a similar concordance for Hebrew, but I haven't found it as useful.
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  Which English Translations of the Bible are you Favorites, and Why?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  which english translations of the bible are you favorites, and why?

  my favorites include the (english) revised version bible (of 1881-1885) and its apocrypha (of 1898), the american revised version bible (of 1898, it close to the american standard version), the american standard version bible (of 1901), the new american standard bible - updated edition, the new revised standard version bible with the apocrypha, the complete bible: an american translation (it includes the apocrypha), and the twentieth century new testament.

  i also use others beside those.. they are my favorites because i consider them to be highly accurate, and also they are either very literal (but not so literal as to be hard to understand) or they use functional equivalence.

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  I especially like the Revised English Bible, which came out in the 1980's as an update to the New English Bible.

  For the NT reading, I like J B Phillips, though a paraphrase.
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  The Emphasized Bible - Now included in WT LIbrary

  by Wonderment in

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  2. bible

  the emphasized bible (rotherham) is now included in the wt library under "other bibles.".

  therefore it joins kit, kjv, asv, & the bible in living english in such group.. any thoughts?.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  The Rotherham is on the JW app now, I just noticed.
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  The Emphasized Bible - Now included in WT LIbrary

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the emphasized bible (rotherham) is now included in the wt library under "other bibles.".

  therefore it joins kit, kjv, asv, & the bible in living english in such group.. any thoughts?.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Awesome, I am both pleasantly surprised and shocked. The connection that JWs will latch onto mainly is that Rotherham elected to use the Divine name Yahweh in the Old Testament. I think they used to sell a non-WT printed Rotherham's at the back counter in the old days, before the donation arrangement. The copy I have is more recent and I do like the version, though the language is dated now and a bit hard to follow for contiguous reading.

  I just looked at the WT online library and the Rotherham version they have there doesn't have either the Introductions or Appendices, which are really interesting and an education in themselves. Also, Rotherham's is the best I have seen for grouping the text so that the poetic passages are clearly identified, (indentations, etc) and the online copy is unfortunately missing these features. On the other hand, the online copy omits the various different fonts, italics and emphasis marks, which I always found more aggravating than helpful.
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  "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?"

  by Diogenesister in

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  2. beliefs

  can anyone remember the reasoning the watchtower gave for jesus speaking these words?

  if you have a reference that would be even better!.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  The comparison between JWs and Docetism has been made before. I used to have a copy of an old anti-Russell tract from the pre-1914 days in which the author railed against Russell for preaching that the body of Christ dissolved after the death. He called it blasphemy that Russell taught 'the Annihilation of Jesus Christ'. There are still some evangelist faiths which criticize the JWs for denying the 'bodily resurrection of Christ' and draw the parallel to Docetism.