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  Are the statistics out yet?

  by slimboyfat in

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  isn’t it about time they released the report for the service year?

  or have they stopped publishing it?

  did they released selected figures at the annual meeting as they usually do, such as the memorial attendance or record number of pioneers?

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  For the US, I predict an increase in publishers and increase in pioneers, decrease in congregations and decrease in number baptized.
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  Museum Pic

  by peacefulpete in

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  a lot of ink has been spilled on the topic of the cross.

  the wt felt it had uncovered some deep conspiracy when they found a number of words were used to describe how jesus was understood to have been killed.

  there was an extensive thread many years ago that in short strongly supports the conclusion that at least some nt writers envisioned a cross, while others had a tree in mind.

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  I've always maintained that the primary reason the anti-cross doctrine was adopted by Rutherford was to distance the Watchtower-aligned Bible Students from the breakaway 'evil slave' Bible Students. One of their characteristic beliefs was the cross, and use of the cross and crown lapel pin as an identifier.
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  Are the statistics out yet?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  isn’t it about time they released the report for the service year?

  or have they stopped publishing it?

  did they released selected figures at the annual meeting as they usually do, such as the memorial attendance or record number of pioneers?

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  I looked around their website a bit and didn't find anything. If it is there it isn't obvious. Nowadays they could throw some numbers into a video in a way that is unfortunately not searchable.
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  Police confirm homicide at Jehovah’s witness center in Colorado after shooter 'threw Molotov cocktail into building'

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. jw
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  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11573103/active-shooter-throws-molotov-cocktail-jehovahs-witness-center-colorado.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top.

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  I haven't seen any updated reports yet today, but CBS is reporting there were 'three incendiary devices found' at the scene. At least one window was obviously broken out in one of the photos. Early news reports often have the details mixed up. One news video showed a street interview of a neighbor who said he heard gunshots at 7:30 am, which doesn't seem likely at a KH; maybe he was mistaken about the time.

  I am upset by this story and will be very interested in knowing the backstory.
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  Police confirm homicide at Jehovah’s witness center in Colorado after shooter 'threw Molotov cocktail into building'

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11573103/active-shooter-throws-molotov-cocktail-jehovahs-witness-center-colorado.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top.

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  I cannot help but wonder if there is any connection to the recent KH raid in Teller County Colorado:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5204343356129280/search-warrants-issued-kh-residence-csa-arrest

  The two locations are 70-80 miles apart, so it could be an unfortunate coincidence.
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  How Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses Are There Worldwide? FAQ Are You A Jehovah's Witness in REALITY

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
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  from the faq as captured on the website with this question (how many jehovah's witnesses are there worldwide?

  ) led to this question of mine who do the organization sees as a jehovah's witness?

  the organization answers: .

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  A related question to the OP is:

  Who can be disfellowshipped?

  One must be a member to be disfellowshipped.

  How do they identify a member?

  Only if a person is baptized, not whether or not the person is an active publisher.

  But they define a JW as someone who reports preaching time, regardless of whether or not the person is baptized. The reasoning seems contradictory to me.
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  Police confirm homicide at Jehovah’s witness center in Colorado after shooter 'threw Molotov cocktail into building'

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11573103/active-shooter-throws-molotov-cocktail-jehovahs-witness-center-colorado.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top.

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  CNN is reporting two dead

  https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/25/us/colorado-jehovahs-witnesses-homicide-investigation-dead/index.html

  I am sickened
  
  
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  JW's & "pagan origins" teachings.

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. beliefs

  the cult demands that the "sheeple" avoid anything which has "pagan origins," so for consistency, the wtbts should come clean and abandon the use of the pagan gregorian calendar, and adopt the biblical hebrew calendar.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/gregorian_calendar#months.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hebrew_calendar.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I don't know, but I want my wind chimes back.
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  Rutherford and dinosaurs

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
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  sorry if this has been discussed before but on quora someone asked if rutherford had said that dinosaurs had been taken to venus .

  i assume that the questioner had heard it somewhere and wanted to check it out.

  i've never come across this before is it true ?

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Loved the science fiction of the 40's and 50's. I grew up reading Heinlein, Asimov, and especially Bradbury.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses lose registration as a religious community in Norway

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  https://www.statsforvalteren.no/nb/oslo-og-viken/folk-og-samfunn/tros--og-livssynssamfunn/jehovas-vitner-taper-registrering-som-trossamfunn/.

  published december 22, 2022. the state manager in oslo and viken has decided to withdraw jehovah's witnesses registration as a religious community under the religious society act.. .

  we sent a notice to jehovah's witnesses about possible loss of registration on october 25 this year.

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  As I understand it, the government support of religions in Norway came about in a roundabout manner. At one time there was a single state-supported religion, but at some point the state support was expanded to other religions and the government money (through taxes) began to be distributed proportionately to all the registered religions based on each religion's membership numbers. To qualify, a religion had to register and to meet the legal qualifications defined in the law. One of the legal requirements was that the members have to have the freedom to leave one religion and join another without penalty or repercussions. JW's disfellowshipping fails this test, the goverment claims, so the JWs registration has been removed. Especially galling is the fact that minors are baptized, become members who are counted in the totals (hence more money to the JWs), but cannot leave without being penalized by disfellowshipping.