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  Need help - the Revelation Climax book

  by ozziepost in

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  is it an original from the graphics department?.

  anyone know?.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I had a close acquaintance who was a trained artist who later went to Brooklyn Bethel art department. The way he drew images was to have a photo or other image to copy from. That is the way he got the perspective and angles right. For instance he wanted to have three deer in a mural (I was the gopher for him on the project), and all he had at hand was one photo to work from, so all three deer had the same body posture and leg positioning.

  The beast and harlot image from the Revelation book is certainly original, but it is likely that a <very> similar drawing could be found from another source.
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  Has Rutherford's 16-cylinder Cadillac been found?

  by under the radar in

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  i ran across this episode of jay leno's garage on youtube today.

  all i know is it seems very similar to j f rutherford's much-vaunted 16-cylinder cadillac.

  watch the episode and let us know what you think.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Cool video! I really doubt it would be the same one as JFR’s , as they made lots of them and very few survived. Jay says in the video it gets 3-6 mph, and cost $6500 new in 1930 or 1932, ( both dates are given).
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  My old congregation is being shuttered

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  2. beliefs

  i just found out from my jehovah's witness cousin that my old congregation is being shuttered due to lack of elders, less than 20 members attending, and that the congregation cannot meet their monthly expenses.. here is a congregation that was started in 1975 with less than 15 members.

  it grew to 185 members in the 1990's.

  the congregation grew so large that the elders decided to split the congregation in two.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  In this area (rural midwest US), five congregations I know of within 50 miles of here have dissolved over the past few years and the halls sold. Two have been converted into residences, I don't know what happened to the others. The JWs have been reassigned to the nearest congregation and KH to their homes. Some have to drive about 45-50 miles to the meetings. Of course there is a lot of zooming for these ones due to the cost and trouble making the drive.
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  Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..

  by mentallyfree31 in

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  2. beliefs

  who were your past circuit overseers?

  i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).

  ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  All the COs I knew have aged out. It seems like they are appointing mostly younger 35-45 age guys nowadays. Enthusiastic salesman type of people.
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  1290 JW Congregations have been deleted since 4th Dec 2022

  by ComingOutaMyCage in

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  https://i.redd.it/hd9p1g3ssr2b1.jpg.

  1290 jw congregations have been deleted since 4th dec 2022. i have a full map so you can explore active/deleted congs, and also orphaned halls https://analytics.jws-library.one/viewmap.html.

  many of the deletions in the usa appear to be foreign language groups.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Thanks ComingOutMyCage, that is one impressive website. A lot of work to set that up!

  Fantastic!

  edited to add: A lot of the deleted congregations, at least in the US, are foreign language. When they disband or discontinue, the ones attending just go back to English. I have a family member who attended a foreign language congregation in a US location and even attended a couple of the meetings myself. Didn't understand a word, but it was kind of interesting to observe. I think the purpose of the foreign language work was to give people a way to get out of the boring JW doldrums and feel like they were doing something special. It kind of worked for a while, but COVID really made it an unworkable model. The service was based on having the English language territores worked in the field, the publisher encounters someone who speaks the foreign language, say Russian, then gives the address to the Russian congregation. The Russian cong then goes out and makes a call at that address. It just didn't work under Covid, particularly with the field service going to zoom and letter writing.
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  What`s the reason some of you think JW`s are in decline ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  2. friends

  from what i can see no such thing is happening.i became a jw in 1960 and remained for about 30 years and the numbers of active jw`s today in the world are far greater than they were back then.. and here in australia the numbers are much higher than they were back then .. so i don`t see that their in decline or have any worries about losing support .. don`t the numbers speak for themselves ?.

  is it just wishful thinking on your part ?.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  In this area (midwest US, rural) I get the feeling it is stagnating. Robust enthusiasm and growth from the '70's to the '90s just isn't there. Maybe the number of reported publishers hasn't changed much (roughly flat in the US for the past several years), but the religion has changed and is changing. Consolidation of congregations and circuits, and abysmally low number of baptisms tell the tale. Across the world, I think, it is another matter. I have a family member living in a third world country and they tell of lots of growth and continuing interest there.
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  The Judge on Trial: Uncovering the Real J F Rutherford [Part 1]

  by pomo6780 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  enough rhetoric for now, here is my promised first part to my series.. for the benefit of lurkers, i'm using mainly wt publications as my research to show this information isn't 'apostate'.

  part 1: association with russell and the bible students.

  i want to ask an honest question.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I read this thread for several minutes before realizing that the OP is 5 years old, and the recent posts are related to the Maxime J. Chevalier quotes about Nazis. The OP isn't really bad, a few mis-statements or opinions, but within the realm of reasonable conjecture. The Chevalier quotes are simply BS.
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  Confirmed: CO Discourages Zoom

  by XBEHERE in

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  2. friends

  i can confirm that the co during one of his service talks stated that zoom is a provision for elderly, infirmed, as well as people who might need it on occasion due to health reasons, otherwise you are expected to be in person at meetings and in the ministry.

  this had to come down from the top.

  maybe they do not want to put it in a gb update or broadcast since that would be too public i suppose.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  In rural areas, they have eliminated quite a few halls and make people drive further to meetings. It is an hour drive one way for some in this area (midwest US). The added cost of travel and time is a big part of the stay-at-home on zoom phenomenon.
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  Do you agree with this?

  by vienne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  new post to the history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2023/05/typical-nonsense.html.

  i agree that in the russell and rutherford eras there was little actual scriptural refutation.

  fine!

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I think it is difficult to judge a person's character after so many years. One thing I would say is that his business dealings, the way the Society was set up and funded, Russell's personal donations, all these things were done very sloppily. When he died there was no clear succession plan and the resulting chaos harmed the Society and caused most of the Bible Students to leave association with the Watchtower Society. I despise Rutherford, but much of his actions (appointing elders, requiring field service time to be reported) came into being in reaction to legal pressures.
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  History Puzzle

  by vienne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm trying to solve a mystery for uncle b. he owns three antique tracts that were bound into one volume for william morris wright, for six years a society director.

  two are easy to identify.

  its title is: "the times of the gentiles, and the things which are.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  There is a bit of a biography of Caleb Jason Baker at:

  https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/articles/index.php?view=article&aid=16183

  I'm sure you have already seen it through a google search, but for the other viewers it might jog someone's memory.

  I've never heard of him, but it sounds like he was a pretty well known independent preacher in Chicago and later in Kansas City.