I hadn't heard of this before, but when I was younger I knew an old anointed who had in his youth traveled around with a projector and all the slides for the Photo Drama of Creation. I don't recall him talking about any moving film, they were all still shots that I know of, but I could see them showing moving films in the same way. Anyway, the colporters would rent a local hall and show the presentation, sell the WT books, etc. I later knew an older non-JW lady who had gone to such a presentation and purchased some of the books, which she showed me on her bookshelf.
dropoffyourkeylee
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Who knows the "Kinemo Kit Corporation"
by chasson infrom the wt of october 1, 1921 p. 303:.
"nouncement.
was made concerning the makfng of certain film to be exhibited.
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How about this?
by Wonderment innew world translation of the christian greek scriptures released in fon.
https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/benin/new-world-translation-of-the-christian-greek-scriptures-released-in-fon/.
wikipedia states under "fon language > machine translation efforts":.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Any idea on how many people can both speak and read the Fon language?
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Kingdom Hall Insurance
by NotFormer inthat the wt "self insures" kingdom halls has come up in occasional conversations on here.
how exactly does that work?
do they* actually set aside a portion of the monthly remittance from each kingdom hall and save into a pool to cover damage etc.
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I am wondering why the WT doesn't use commercial insurance for their properties and make it work out to their benefit, in the same way they milk the insurance companies in their 'disaster relief'.
Here's how they would do it:
Get insurance locally for the KH
A fire or other casualty damages the building
The insurance company pays for the loss less any deductible, with the amount of the payment including both materials and labor
The repairs/rebuilding are made with donated materials and labor
WT pockets the money
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Request--Ministerial Claims Form--and- Book Study Conductor Files!
by Atlantis inatlantis, would you happen to have the: counsel on ministerial claims by jehovah's witnesses, which includes the: memorandum of information concerning book study conductor?
******************************************atlantis, yes, it is all in the pegasus and i think all that stuff went back to the 1950's for the selective service or the draft, to prove jw's were ministers and so forth.
it was published to help jw's receive their iv-d classification for minister of divinity, there are certificates and id cards in there too.a lot of old-timers here will remember all that crap.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Thanks, I had never seen the document 'Counsel On Ministerial Claims'. Reading it, I find it supports a conclusion I reached some years ago that many of the elements of JW religion were invented in the '40s and '50s to support the IV-D classification attempts. Their mostly failed attempts in WW1 and WW2 were a disaster. In the WW1 era, their stance landed the JW leaders in jail. In the WW2 era, very few JWs succeeded in obtaining the classification, most served jail time. Post WW2, the WT outright invented and fabricated things like:
Pioneer status: Required keeping time records at 100 hours a month preaching to support the claim that preaching is the applicant's occupation
Ministry School: This was invented to support the claim that the applicant has training and studied the Bible thoroughly. Books like 'Qualified to be Ministers' (the title gives away its true purpose). The All Scripture is Inspired book was a text book of the Ministry school (at least that is one JW book that had some merit). The Ministry school had graded tests for many years, again for the purpose of making it like an actual school to support the IV-D claims. The current Ministry School curriculum wouldn't have passed the test.
Baptisim is 'ordination' - The claim that all JWs are ordained ministers because the 'baptism' is the ordination ceremony.
Missionary Status: To be a missionary, one needs missionary training. Voila, the Gilead School is invented.
All of these things were totally invented and pulled out of the air for one purpose; to provide documentation to support the claims for IV-D minister classification.
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What is is your favorite REDICULOUS JW falsehood? :)
by Balaamsass2 ini get a few good laughs from the ex-jw facebook site: " ex jw humor will set you free".. i was laughing over dinner with 3rd gen over this post tonight: "question for the audience: i was driving around today and it hit me...there are big falsehoods (armageddon etc.
) that we were told, but also ridiculous falsehoods.
what is your favorite ridiculous falsehoods?
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Humans have only existed for 6000 years
A worldwide flood happened 4000 years ago
Somehow kangaroos were on the ark and hopped all the way to Australia after the flood
The mountains were pushed up during the great flood
All JWs are ministers
Elders are loving shepherds
You don't need a college education, just learn a trade and you'll be happier
No need for retirement planning, the end will come before you reach retirement age
I could go on much longer, but I'll stop there
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A fun moment
by Vidiot inmy wife of many years is more-or-less pomo, but she still (nominally) believes in jehovah and the bible.. she raised her eyebrows when she realized the full scope of the csa problem… rolled her eyes when letto the clown called babies “little enemies of god”… but today, we apparently crossed a real threshold….
…her response to the governing body being referred to as “our future kings” was….
…“what????!!!!!”.
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The 'future kings' statement was a bit of a shock to me. I have to believe that even the diehard JWs would find it offensive as well.
Really he should have said 'future kings and priests'; that would have really raised the eyebrows.
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Need help identifying a book
by oncebitten inhello all.. i could use some help identifying the title of a wt book that i read back in the early 90's.
it was an older book when i read it.
i wish that i could recall more than i do.
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One major insight I got from the Divine Purpose book was that a major effort by the organization was to solve the military service problem. They just had to have a way to establish with the courts that a JW service-age man was a 'minister' and qualified for the ministry exemption. Post WW2, they made a number of changes to support this effort:
Changed 'all religion is bad' to 'true religion and false religion', due to criticism that to be a minister one has to be a member of a religion.
Introduced the Ministry School, at first entirely for men (because of the draft) to answer criticism that JWs had no training to be ministers. The textbook was 'Qualified to be Ministers', the 1950's edition even had a list of JWs by name who they identified as ministers.
Gilead school created to provide an answer that their ministers sent overseas had theological education equivalent to other religions' schools.
'Pioneer' status invented, replaced the culporter, which was argued to be simply a salesman. Pioneers had strict rules about counting and reporting hours in ministry.
All these changes described in the book were initiated entirely in the context of supporting their stance against the draft. The court win in the 1954 Walsh case (Scotland) was touted in the book as a victory.
'Our Kingdom Ministry' introduced to support the fiction that the Ministry School had a curriculum
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Need help identifying a book
by oncebitten inhello all.. i could use some help identifying the title of a wt book that i read back in the early 90's.
it was an older book when i read it.
i wish that i could recall more than i do.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Most likely the Divine Purpose book, as already stated. It has some use now in giving the modern reader insight into the mindset of the JW apologists of the 1950’s. It was their first elaborate attempt at rewriting the JW history, while distancing themselves from the ‘evil slave’ of the time period, ie the Bible Student groups. -
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Can you identify this?
by vienne inokay all you history buffs, compulsive researchers and simply curious: can you identify the location and date of this photo?.
https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2024/05/district-assembly-itentify.html.
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dropoffyourkeylee
l suggest it looks like a race track in the US. Kind of familiar looking, we attended a race track assembly in LA in the seventies. One such racetrack is the Santa Anita (photo below) the terrain definitely looks similar
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Help to find brothers in Dubai
by victorflorez85 inhi brothers/sisters my name is victor, recently in move to dubai for job reasons, during the last 3 weeks i have been trying to find a congregation or brothers to contact with them because i would like to go the meetings and continue my personal study, but i hasn't success.. if anybody here have some contact in the united arab emirates or know somebody that have it, i will appreciate a lot that can help me to contact with them.. thank you!.
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dropoffyourkeylee
good luck finding a JW in Muslim countries
Ditto. JWs are under severe restrictions, even if not exactly under ban, in Muslim countries. There is likely not an open meeting to attend. In particular JWs, (I believe this applies to all non-Muslim religions) are not allowed to proselytize, only preach to other non-Muslims with the intent to convert.
A few years ago I was shocked to learn that JW need-greaters were going into Morocco under assumed names, with no support from any JW branch. They were out there totally on their own, taking such risk. Really a bad idea.