What they call field service now under COVID consists of chatting a couple of hours on zoom while hand writing letters in the US mail. It is hopelessly mind numbing and boring. How long can they possibly keep this up without people quitting? How can they call it 'ministry'? I think the basic core activity (field service) that defines the JWs is at risk and it will force a fundamental change in the dynamics of the religion going forward.
dropoffyourkeylee
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What Do You Want To Talk About Regarding Jehovah’s Witnesses?
by minimus inwe do talk a lot about how this site doesn’t center on all things jw.
so what would you like to discuss?.
the floor is yours..
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1969 "fact": You will never grow old in this present system of things
by Ding inawake!
"if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.
because all the evidence in fulfillment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years... therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I remember those times (I was 8 in '69), and can vouch for the fact that this mentality was the prevailing attitude and belief of the Witnesses at the time. Virtually everyone believed it. Assembly talks, Circuit Servant talks, all of it pounded the ideas in; most of it never ended up in print. Fortunately a few things were printed (like this Awake article) or otherwise recorded so we have some proof of what was taught.
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May JW Broaadcast - so bad, "it's not even wrong"
by FFGhost indon't know how many of y'all still watch it.. this month's topic is "the king of the north" - cook goes into monotonous detail over the jw interpretation about rome, germany, ussr, russia, etc.. leaving aside for other commentators the emotionally manipulative videos of jws in russian holding cells, the tearjerker interviews, the god-awful stiffness of cook (i suspect he has never genuinely smiled, much less laughed, in his 60+ years), just thought i'd comment on one topic.. the centerpiece of the program is a "morning worship" monologue from splane.
let's again just leave to the side the dude's pomposity, smugness, and inflated sense of his own genius, and think about this part of his monologue.. he was tracing the history of the "king of the north" and talked about how "britain" (not england, not the united kingdom, not great britain, but "britain" - no idea why they have that fixation - anyway...) became the kotn in the 19th century.. paraphrasing his comments: "britain would not have become kotn if france had its way.
france was much wealthier and more powerful, but at the battle of waterloo, britain defeated france.
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dropoffyourkeylee
In the US, bad weather on Election day has been interpreted to be good for Republicans (conservative) and bad for Democrats (liberal). Especially true for the South, where on Election day the weather is carefully watched due to the larger percentage of African American voters (more often Democrat).
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May JW Broaadcast - so bad, "it's not even wrong"
by FFGhost indon't know how many of y'all still watch it.. this month's topic is "the king of the north" - cook goes into monotonous detail over the jw interpretation about rome, germany, ussr, russia, etc.. leaving aside for other commentators the emotionally manipulative videos of jws in russian holding cells, the tearjerker interviews, the god-awful stiffness of cook (i suspect he has never genuinely smiled, much less laughed, in his 60+ years), just thought i'd comment on one topic.. the centerpiece of the program is a "morning worship" monologue from splane.
let's again just leave to the side the dude's pomposity, smugness, and inflated sense of his own genius, and think about this part of his monologue.. he was tracing the history of the "king of the north" and talked about how "britain" (not england, not the united kingdom, not great britain, but "britain" - no idea why they have that fixation - anyway...) became the kotn in the 19th century.. paraphrasing his comments: "britain would not have become kotn if france had its way.
france was much wealthier and more powerful, but at the battle of waterloo, britain defeated france.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I overheard parts of the broadcast as the wife was listening to it. It sounded like a third grader explaining to his mom what he heard in history class.
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Are Watchtower library CD's of any use.
by still wondering ini have 8 watchtower library cd's from 1997 to 2009 and barbara anderson's "secrets of paedophilia" cd which i no longer require.
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if anyone wants them in the uk please let me know and i will send them for free rather than dump them..
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dropoffyourkeylee
good for skeet shooting
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Art work in the 1933 book riches
by mickbobcat ini picked this book up at a flea market for three bucks.
the art work is great.
i love the satan and .
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dropoffyourkeylee
I'm pretty sure the book 'Creation' referred to was a Rutherford book from the '30s, not 1914 as cited. Russell had a book called 'The New Creation', but the one with the offensive picture was a Rutherford-era book.
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An American Religion?
by no-zombie ini have a question.. have every member of the governing body (past and present) been american citizens?.
while i understand that some may have been born outside of the us, ultimately to serve in the world hq long term, i imagine that they all had to become 'americans'?.
no zombie.
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dropoffyourkeylee
a Good question.
I am going to guess no, because the JWs in the past have been hesitant to commit to the Oath of Allegiance. I honestly don't know where they are now on it, maybe it is a conscience matter nowadays, but in the past it was not allowed for JWs.
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Art work in the 1933 book riches
by mickbobcat ini picked this book up at a flea market for three bucks.
the art work is great.
i love the satan and .
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dropoffyourkeylee
Awesome, you got a bargain. That's the one where the serpent had legs.
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Headship and WT's Changed Understanding
by Bobcat ini don't think anyone has mentioned that the february 2021 study wt (p. 15, 16; par.
8) changed wt's long standing view on headship within the congregation.
wt used to view all baptized males as being the head of all baptized sisters.. this view led to such absurdities as a sister having to wear a head covering on a bible study because her baptized 10 year old son was sitting in on the study with her.
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dropoffyourkeylee
It may take years, but I believe that eventually the WT will allow women in teaching roles. Their position is so antiquated and ridiculous as to be untenable in the long run.
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What affect did the 1918 flu have on the Bible Student Movement?
by dropoffyourkeylee inmaybe someone has already brought this up, but a news article i ran across:.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/03/health/churches-covid-1918-lesson-wellness/index.html.
brings a question to my mind.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Maybe someone has already brought this up, but a news article I ran across:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/03/health/churches-covid-1918-lesson-wellness/index.html
brings a question to my mind. What role did the 1918 flu, which had similar isolation as COVID but without the benefit of zoom meetings, have in the decimation of the Bible Student movement in the early Rutherford years? There was a lot going on anyway, with the death of Russell, WW1, Rutherford in jail for a year, etc, but the isolation of the members must have had a role in distancing the people. The breaking or loosening of personal bonds and friendships makes it easier to leave, whether a church, a job, or other association.
Just a thought