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  2024-08-August-Edition-of-Watchtower!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .

  https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .

  leopold.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Thanks Grandpa!

  I'll be keen to see the English version (not posted on jw org yet that I can see), but it is clear what direction they are going. The lawyers are pulling the strings on this change.
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  Assembly Attendence

  by Riley in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am in western canada.

  we use to have our assembly in saskatoon.

  our assembly has moved to medicine hat.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I just heard that the regional convention in Huntington WV had a shockingly low attendance. From an expected 2200, the first week had about 1700, and the second week had only 700. Pretty bad, but who wants to go to West Virginia to a convention?
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  The August Study Watchtower: what is the big deal?

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have been following a number of posts discussing the august watchtower study magazine.

  i really don't believe this common idea being passed around that it's being timed for the annual meeting.

  here's why.. the august watchtower will be available on servers not long before its public release.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  The ‘freedom to leave without repercussion’ is a sticking point in the Norway issue
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  The August Study Watchtower: what is the big deal?

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have been following a number of posts discussing the august watchtower study magazine.

  i really don't believe this common idea being passed around that it's being timed for the annual meeting.

  here's why.. the august watchtower will be available on servers not long before its public release.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  My thought is not that they will wait until October to release the Aug WT, but rather that they are ironing out the script of the Annual Meeting, and the August WT study articles (to be studied in October) will present some of that information. They'll release the Aug WT sometime in July I would guess.
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  The August 2024 Watchtower controversy and potential further changes

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as an educated guess, the august 2024 watchtower may be delayed because 2 complicated subjects need to be discussed in this issue which haven't yet been approved to be included in the revised shepherding textbook.

  perhaps the revised shepherding textbook must be finalised before this watchtower is released publicly.. the 2 subjects may be as follows:.

  how to shepherd and appoint brothers based on the removal of the hour requirements, getting to know the brothers instead (does this mean prioritising appointing men who have auxiliary pioneered during the co visit and campaigns or men who are regular pioneers?).

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  The study articles of the August 2024 WT would be studied October 13 and later. The timing does suggest that they are finalizing some decisions that would coincide with the Annual Meeting.
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  Who knows the "Kinemo Kit Corporation"

  by chasson in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from the wt of october 1, 1921 p. 303:.

  "nouncement.

  was made concerning the makfng of certain film to be exhibited.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I hadn't heard of this before, but when I was younger I knew an old anointed who had in his youth traveled around with a projector and all the slides for the Photo Drama of Creation. I don't recall him talking about any moving film, they were all still shots that I know of, but I could see them showing moving films in the same way. Anyway, the colporters would rent a local hall and show the presentation, sell the WT books, etc. I later knew an older non-JW lady who had gone to such a presentation and purchased some of the books, which she showed me on her bookshelf.
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  How about this?

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  new world translation of the christian greek scriptures released in fon.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/benin/new-world-translation-of-the-christian-greek-scriptures-released-in-fon/.

  wikipedia states under "fon language > machine translation efforts":.

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  Any idea on how many people can both speak and read the Fon language?
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  Kingdom Hall Insurance

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  that the wt "self insures" kingdom halls has come up in occasional conversations on here.

  how exactly does that work?

  do they* actually set aside a portion of the monthly remittance from each kingdom hall and save into a pool to cover damage etc.

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  I am wondering why the WT doesn't use commercial insurance for their properties and make it work out to their benefit, in the same way they milk the insurance companies in their 'disaster relief'.

  Here's how they would do it:

  Get insurance locally for the KH

  A fire or other casualty damages the building

  The insurance company pays for the loss less any deductible, with the amount of the payment including both materials and labor

  The repairs/rebuilding are made with donated materials and labor

  WT pockets the money
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  Request--Ministerial Claims Form--and- Book Study Conductor Files!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  atlantis, would you happen to have the: counsel on ministerial claims by jehovah's witnesses, which includes the: memorandum of information concerning book study conductor?

  ******************************************atlantis, yes, it is all in the pegasus and i think all that stuff went back to the 1950's for the selective service or the draft, to prove jw's were ministers and so forth.

  it was published to help jw's receive their iv-d classification for minister of divinity, there are certificates and id cards in there too.a lot of old-timers here will remember all that crap.

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  Thanks, I had never seen the document 'Counsel On Ministerial Claims'. Reading it, I find it supports a conclusion I reached some years ago that many of the elements of JW religion were invented in the '40s and '50s to support the IV-D classification attempts. Their mostly failed attempts in WW1 and WW2 were a disaster. In the WW1 era, their stance landed the JW leaders in jail. In the WW2 era, very few JWs succeeded in obtaining the classification, most served jail time. Post WW2, the WT outright invented and fabricated things like:

  Pioneer status: Required keeping time records at 100 hours a month preaching to support the claim that preaching is the applicant's occupation

  Ministry School: This was invented to support the claim that the applicant has training and studied the Bible thoroughly. Books like 'Qualified to be Ministers' (the title gives away its true purpose). The All Scripture is Inspired book was a text book of the Ministry school (at least that is one JW book that had some merit). The Ministry school had graded tests for many years, again for the purpose of making it like an actual school to support the IV-D claims. The current Ministry School curriculum wouldn't have passed the test.

  Baptisim is 'ordination' - The claim that all JWs are ordained ministers because the 'baptism' is the ordination ceremony.

  Missionary Status: To be a missionary, one needs missionary training. Voila, the Gilead School is invented.
  

  All of these things were totally invented and pulled out of the air for one purpose; to provide documentation to support the claims for IV-D minister classification.
  
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  What is is your favorite REDICULOUS JW falsehood? :)

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i get a few good laughs from the ex-jw facebook site: " ex jw humor will set you free".. i was laughing over dinner with 3rd gen over this post tonight: "question for the audience: i was driving around today and it hit me...there are big falsehoods (armageddon etc.

  ) that we were told, but also ridiculous falsehoods.

  what is your favorite ridiculous falsehoods?

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Humans have only existed for 6000 years

  A worldwide flood happened 4000 years ago

  Somehow kangaroos were on the ark and hopped all the way to Australia after the flood

  The mountains were pushed up during the great flood

  All JWs are ministers

  Elders are loving shepherds

  You don't need a college education, just learn a trade and you'll be happier

  No need for retirement planning, the end will come before you reach retirement age

  I could go on much longer, but I'll stop there