geoffrey hinton, major inventor of artificial intelligence: .
“if you take the existential risk seriously, as i now do—i used to think it was way off, but now i think it’s serious, and fairly close—it might be quite sensible to just stop developing these things any further, but i think it’s completely naïve to think that would happen.
there’s no way to make that happen.
cofty: How will AI kill us all exactly?
I don't think the fear is that AI will reach sentience and seek to annihilate us in some Schwarzeneggeresque apocalypse. As I understand it the worry is over the potential for misinformation. Imagine a future where anyone with a bad motive can easily utilise AI to produce the narrative and results they want.
You think we've got it bad now with conspiracy nuts and anti-science ideologies? Wait until these guys have the tools to prove they are right.
a little about me first: i was a 4th generation jw who had major reservations about the wt growing up, but finally got on board at age 23 when i got baptized.
spent 8 very active years in, then 8 years out as an agnostic.
got saved in 2004 and been living the born-again christian bible-believing life ever since.
Anyone have any problem with this so far?
I do. Your definition of logic is not strictly speaking true. The logical process itself doesn't presuppose anything in the sense that it operates on a set of rules and principles that are independent of specific assumptions or beliefs.
I get that in practice, when conversations are had on specific topics, certain assumptions are made but these should be spelled out clearly at the beginning.
What are you assuming Sea Breeze?
a little about me first: i was a 4th generation jw who had major reservations about the wt growing up, but finally got on board at age 23 when i got baptized.
spent 8 very active years in, then 8 years out as an agnostic.
got saved in 2004 and been living the born-again christian bible-believing life ever since.
Having lived 60 years now, on both sides of the theological fence
We're about the same age, trust me, you haven't been on both sides of the fence until you've lived with unbelief for a while.
JWs are just another subset of Christianity which in turn is a subset of Abrahamic faith which in it's turn is a subset of all religion.
That ALL exists on one side of the theological fence. Us freethinkers, atheists, apostates, heretics and all the folks who simply never give religious faith a second thought are waving at you from the other side.
It's nice over here. Come visit us.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22011278/new-bible-chapter-hidden-verses-discovered-erased-scribe/.
i wonder what the remaining members of the gb will make of this?.
i excited to read all of this once it’s released and compare with the rest of mathew.
the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.
or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.
it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.
Evolution has been proven.
i just tried something in windows 10 and it worked (i think).. i went to the google online free translator, entered a couple english words, then translated them into russian.. the two words i entered are russian english.
the translator returned русский английский.
i then used those words together as a password for a libre office word junk document, saved the document.
I use Bitwarden to manage my passwords. I can generate passwords up to 128 characters.
Imagine trying to crack this:
ygccF$u9Am8VVeAOeB1cAmEl%lDWi3Z6chC!0N1T5iVy8XOM%hfjR7rMh0$!0hM8@zG$zJ3IYGW#UEg9q1o%*Yp8$8gRTSdh0Xc$4j9^F%TP!e9NsCCTD&mM0@*Zuvy$
the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.
or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.
it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.
ExBethelite, you may enjoy this old topic;
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/123456/there-no-such-thing-agnosticism-agnostics-do-exist
the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.
or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.
it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.
when someone is going through a real hard time it’s very helpful to say the Bible promises no more pain and suffering
I disagree. If, for example, a mother loses her child is it really "helpful" to tell her she can have her child back again? How does such a lie help her grieving process? How unspeakably cruel is it to offer hope that cannot possibly be fulfilled?
the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.
or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.
it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.
But there is no hope after death if you believe the origin of life was chance
That has always been true, the sad thing is that we all fell for the lie that there IS life after death. It's our mortality that makes life so precious, why we have to make the most of our time and find our own purpose and direction.
Welcome to reality.
the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.
or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.
it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.
If you believe in evolution there is no possible hope at all everything is pointless and without purpose.
Why do you feel this way? I'm a happy atheist (exJW like yourself) who's come to the understanding that evolution is true. It's simply the best explanation of the observable facts around us.
I have plenty of hope and purpose in my life, mostly centred around the people I love. Life is good without god.
