Posts by Greybeard

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How do you know when the Governing Body speaks for itself, and when it is supposed to speak for Jehovah?

by dgp in

in the catholic church, the pope is considered "infallible" when he speaks ex cathedra.

that is to say, he is not infallible when he speaks about things that don't have to do with religion.

for example, he may say whatever he pleases about economics, but no one will hold that catholic economists will have sinned against god if they consider that the pope is wrong.. the important point here is that the pope is thought to be infallible only when he speaks about matters strictly related to the church.. the wikipedia has this:.

Greybeard

"However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. And in case you should say in your heart: "How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?" when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak. With presumptuousness the prophet spoke it." Deuteronomy 18:20-22

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What Are Songs That You Just LOVE?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i'm a lover of r&b, soul, funk.

i like rock and very little country.. one of my favorite songs is by r&b legend al green.

it's "let's stay together".

Greybeard

JUST FOR LAUGHS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN6MxLYB8hM

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What Are Songs That You Just LOVE?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i'm a lover of r&b, soul, funk.

i like rock and very little country.. one of my favorite songs is by r&b legend al green.

it's "let's stay together".

Greybeard

Here YOU GO!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie9sY_zp9xg&feature=related

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New Song - "Blinded By New Light"

by RayPublisher in

the generation wasnt right (repeat).

Greybeard

@ exwhyzee,

YOU are very good! I recognize talent when I hear it. Could you please e-mail me at greybeardjws(@)gmail(dot)com?

thanks,

Greybeard

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New Song - "Blinded By New Light"

by RayPublisher in

the generation wasnt right (repeat).

Greybeard

Here is the recording, to download it to your computer, right click on this link and download:

http://www.jwstruggle.com/media/audio/Blinded-By-New-Light.mp3

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"Satan's Star" Re-examined

by JWStruggle in

i put on my blog recently an article reviewing the evidence regarding whether the star of bethlehem was guided by god or satan.

as we are well aware, this is a "pet point" of the witnesses and assists the wt viewpoint with regard to christmas and all things "pagan".. .

http://www.jwstruggle.com/2011/09/satans-star-re-examined/.

Greybeard

@ Cantleave

Its a Myth that you can't leave the Borg... You can ;)

I think Mythbusters should do a show on that! But then... One of them would need to become a dub!

WHAT A AWSOME IDEA!!!

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So why

by bushido8000 in

it has become very apparent to me very quickly that this forum is dominated by ex-jws.

i have many questions and topics to present but i first want to know who i am presenting these questions and topics to so i have 2 questions that i would like as many of yall to answer as possible.. .

question 1: did you leave the organization out of the blue or were you first disfellowshipped?.

Greybeard

Hi Bushido,

I was a hard core JW all of my life. There is no way I would have listened to "apostate" words for a second. However, for a long time I prayed for God to not let me be blind and here is why... It really bothered me that all these people who were not JW's were going to be destroyed for not "seeing the truth" of the Watchtower. That is about 5 or 6 billion people who will die because they are not Jehovah's Witnesses. This really bothered me. If that doesn't bother a JW than they will most likely NEVER see the light IMO. The GENERATION "new light" was a real joke to me that I couldn't buy. Time ran out, it wasn't "new light."

I thought to myself, if I wasn't a JW I would probably never become one based on all the wrong predictions including the generation change. I had these thoughts as a full believing loyal JW. So I prayed for help and I asked Jehovah/YHWH to not let me be blind. It wasn't long after that I found myself disfellowshipped and wrongly so IMO. I got a DUI, I was VERY repentant and in TEARS... They said I only told them because it was going to be public knowledge. They DFed me and said, "We hand you over to Satan." I was in shock... That was a earth shaker for me. Now I look back on it as a answer to my prayer the way it all happened. I decided sense I wasn't a JW I would now look at everything I could on them. JWFACTS.com was at the top of my list. A "worldly" friend sent a link to it right after I was DFed. It didn't take me long after that to find out "the truth about that truth." (TTATT) I did go back to get reinstated (to talk to my kids) then faded and I am still faaadddddiiiinnnngggg out.

I see Paul Grundy is on this thread! I just want to say Hi Paul and THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK!!! AWESOME JOB!!!

So may I ask you Bushido, what is your story? Do you still think they have the truth or are you looking for answers to questions they cannot answer?

Your brother,

Greybeard

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Judge Rutherford steps off a curb, is struck by a truck and dies.....

by Terry in

pastor charles taze russell died on a train outside pampas texas in october of 1916.. shortly afterward a phonecall was placed to j.f.rutherford that "the old man is dead.".

as we all know, rutherford wasted no time.

he engineered a series of moves that placed himself at the helm of a publishing company.

Greybeard

Maybe Rutherford was Gods way of "making the rocks cry out."

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Need help to reason with a JW regarding Jesus TRUE Congregation!

by TimothyT in

please be patient with me on this thread.

im going to try to explain all of this to a jw sister who believes salvation is only within the organisation.

if you have any thoughts and suggestions id most appreciate it.. as i was growing up as a jw, i refused to believe straight from the beginning that you had to be a jw to be saved.

Greybeard

I think you are on the right track Timothy. I am glad to see you still believe in the Bible. As far as sharing your views with JW's, I agree with what others have said here. It will not be easy. It seems to me that some people need a legalistic religion with men telling them what to do. Because they have been taught to read the Watchtower more than the Bible they hardly do read the Bible. If they did, asking for Holy Spirit, it is likely they would soon be asking questions that the WT has no answer for. I was a hard core JW all of my life. There is no way I would have listened to "apostate" words for a second. however, for a long time I prayed for God to not let me be blind. It really bothered me that all these people who were not JW's were going to be destroyed for not "seeing the truth" of the Watchtower. That is about 5 or 6 billion people who would die because they are not Jehovah's Witnesses. If that doesn't bother a JW than they probably will NEVER see the light IMO.

I thought to myself, if I wasn't a JW I would probably never become one based on all the wrong predictions including the generation change. I had these thoughts as a full believing JW. So I prayed for help and I asked Jehovah/YHWH to not let me be blind. It wasn't long after that I found myself disfellowshipped and wrongly so IMO. That was a earth shaker for me. Now I look back on it as a answer to my prayer the way it all happened. I decided sense I wasn't a JW I would now look at everything I could on them. JWFACTS.com was at the top of my list. A "worldly" friend sent a link to it right after I was DFed. It didn't take me long after that to find out "the truth about that truth." (TTATT)

That was a couple of years ago and my prayerful search for real truth has not stopped sense. As we know the Bible teaches us that God does not desire anyone to die... Jesus said with his father all things are possible. Jehovah can and does change hearts. Romans 11:32 tells us, "For God has locked all people in the prison of their own disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all." "That he may have mercy on them all"? Amen to that! 1 Corinthians 15:22, "For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive."

I believe as Adam and Eve chose to eat from the "Tree of Knowledge of good and Evil", we all are still eating of that tree. We are learning God and Evil in this life. Wether you believe in God or not, you are still learning good and bad. It serves Gods purpose to let us learn in this life what it is like to be without him. If God can create LIFE, something NO MAN can do, surly he can resurrect LIFE and all those who have ever died on this planet. The space in the universe is without limit as well as Gods power.

I believe that EVERY knee will bend before Christ Jesus/Yeshua in every nation. I believe God will still show mercy on the nation of Israel and I think that could happen soon. I do not believe there is any Church on this planet that teaches 100% truth. Jesus is the Way, Truth and the Life. He is the only door to the Father and no man. The JW's make a mockery out of rejecting the wine and the bread at the "memorial". That was a command from Christ for all of his followers to take part of and their were no "observers".

I highly recommend that every X-JW read the PDF found on this web site and watch the videos: http://hopebeyondhell.net/ This web site shows how the Bible holds out hope for ALL of mankind. This view or belief was an answer to my prayer. I have nothing to do with this web site but I do see things this way. I lean towards universal salvation through Christ Jesus. This PDF or book tells why.

I also write for jwstruggle.com and agree with most written on that site.

Take care my brother,

Greybeard

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Today's Watchtower Study is SO dumb!!!

by TimothyT in

i would like to think of myself as an academic.

im starting my second degree and i enjoy research.

when i see a statement backed up by references and support from a credible source, sometimes i get excited.

Greybeard

Thanks everyone for the welcome. Nice to see you too SIAM. Looks like this is the place to be...