Posts by Greybeard

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Elder asking for help

by untruth in

this is my first time posting on here so i’m not sure where to start.

i’m trying to keep it as short as possible since i could expand much more.

i’ve been in the process of waking up in the last year and a half.

Bro I love your letter! Thank you for writing it! It gives me hope for my family. My own son is a elder and my brother. Bro, I went through hell waking up and I have some advice for you that might be a little out of the box but I think it is the best advice I can give. I did it all wrong, I lost my wife. I have reviewed and studied what I did and what others did. I am not going to go into all of that. Here is what I would do if I was you.

If you want to get your wife to think, you cannot do it by saying anything negative about the org. They are like robots when it comes to that. JUST BE HAPPY AND POSITIVE ALL THE TIME. Like you know something she doesn't know... I would stop all meetings and be happy about it. Do other things on those nights and invite her to go along. If she goes to the meeting let her go and come back happy from wherever you go. BE HAPPY.... and you don't need to explain why, she can figure it out like you did. You got to bee cool, don't play the fool, the husband who is head of the house... that will never work. Just be cool, kind and happy for real, thats how to win this game in my book. Its a relationship and you still got to be nice and attractive. As soon as you are not nice you are unattractive. People are attracted to happy positive people who are confident. Her doubts will bother her. This takes time, be patient. It will not be easy but if you keep your cool you will win. I lost.... I did it the other way because I was angry at all of them and I gave them both barrels in text and as much proof as I could find. That don't work believe me. BE HAPPY, BE COOL, You sound like a cool guy to me and very smart!

I am happy for you!

By the way, I copied your letter and emailed it to my family! No response yet ;) Don't be like me, it doesn't work

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All in good fun, I love my ELDER brother and always will, obviously he is sick...

by Greybeard in

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Greybeard

I know... not trying to be hard on him, just trying to open his eyes. I love him dearly and he does have a good heart. Baldness is a sickness as well, you don't see many bald hippies. They are all just sick... Armageddon is a slow process in my humble opinion... time to wake up, will they ever?

Luke 17:20, 21 “On being asked by the Pharisees when the Kingdom of God was coming,+ he answered them: “The Kingdom of God is not coming with striking observableness; nor will people say, ‘See here!’ or, ‘There!’ For look! the Kingdom of God is in your midst.” NWT

Luke 17:20,21, “The Pharisees asked Jesus when the kingdom of God would come. He answered them, "People can't observe the coming of the kingdom of God.” GWT

Luke 17:20,21, “Once Jesus was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come. He answered them, "The kingdom of God is not coming with a visible display.” ISV

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All in good fun, I love my ELDER brother and always will, obviously he is sick...

by Greybeard in

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Laughter is the best medicine is it not? Dude, I don't know wether to laugh or cry, I love my brother deeply and my entire family. This is kinda like a missing person add, I want my brother back, I want my family back... I am not one to give up easy on any of them. Maybe if he see's this, he will see how he really is, a picture is worth a thousands words.

Print it and put it on the Kingdom Hall door, just don't let them see you 007 :)

Edit: I would just like to say.. he never has said anything like this but this is the type of arrogant attitude he has as well as many elders including the governing body as most of you know. He puts me down to my face and he gossips about me to everyone making himself look good in the process. I just got fed up with it... My brother does have a good heart, he is just mislead, this is not who he really is, this is what he has become, sick.

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All in good fun, I love my ELDER brother and always will, obviously he is sick...

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I need a little help

by Darryl in

my story is i've been df'd for about 20 years.

a couple years after i started attending church and found it to be a tremendously uplifting experience.

from the people to the music, message everything drew me in.

Greybeard

You got it bro! Food Banks rock! They do help people... JW's destroy lives and families all in the name of God...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKx0tdlxMfY

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I need a little help

by Darryl in

my story is i've been df'd for about 20 years.

a couple years after i started attending church and found it to be a tremendously uplifting experience.

from the people to the music, message everything drew me in.

Greybeard

I hear you Darryl, Totally understand what you are going through. You are trying to make since of everything you have been taught your entire life and it does not add up. I never met Jesus, but I know how the story goes and if he did exist... I would like to think a man like him did exist... if so there is no reason to fear him! There is no need to fear Revelation because Jesus is not a hateful killer like the God of Israel. He said, "Your God is a man slayer and the father of the lie." He abolished their law. In Revelation it says he is coming with a sword in his mouth. That represents WORDS and WORDS kill the EGO. That is all he ever did was kill peoples egos and heal people according to the Bible. Sounds like he practiced Yoga to me or something and they twisted it all. He even forgave those who killed him. He also said when the son of man returns, will he find the faith on Earth? Apparently not, I have looked and I cannot find anything like it in so called Christainity. Jesus was a psychic and practiced magic if you think about it right? Something they made us fear. He preached "You are gods" and said you can't take that out... I went to many churches too, nobody teaches that in Christianity that I know of. Did he find the faith when he came the first time? Nope. All you can do is be good and cause others no harm. Treat people nice. The Apocalypse is nothing to fear if Jesus is the one bring it so hold your head up high and work on getting heathy, maybe take a Yoga class or join a gym. Take care and don't worry, BE HAPPY!!! :)

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Dear Daddy This Is Your Song

by Greybeard in

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dear daddy this is your song .

dear daddy its 2016please tell me what did you really mean?when you said we will never grow old?is this a lie that you were told?.

overlapping generations from door to door condemning the nations…“gods promises” never came truedear daddy i can’t trust you!

Greybeard

Thank you for saying that crazy light, I do love my father but he finally got to me. Said he had no respect for me as a human being recently, that did it for me. I am very emotional right now. Couldn't sing it if I wanted to at the moment but it is in my head. The truth is I did make him rich and a few others. We were in the Toy business and I am the one who started it. We had a agreement, a handshake, and he screwed me all the way. My resentment has eaten me up and it has been very hard to move on. My mother told me on her death bed to stay away from my father and brother, she said I am not like them and she loved me very much. I was with her for six months going from hospital to hospital (stage 4 cancer) while my brother was living it up, going to Hawaii and China. We marketed the Stomp Rocket. Top Ten Toy in the nation in Plaything magazine for 10 years. They put their homes and mine in their names and the company. When I came out as Greybeard on jwstruggle.com my wife left and family kicked me out of the corporation without me even knowing it... So there you go. Just like their "Mother" the Watchtower treats their own. You serve all you life for broken promises and then your thrown to the curb.

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Dear Daddy This Is Your Song

by Greybeard in

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dear daddy this is your song .

dear daddy its 2016please tell me what did you really mean?when you said we will never grow old?is this a lie that you were told?.

overlapping generations from door to door condemning the nations…“gods promises” never came truedear daddy i can’t trust you!

Greybeard

Dear Daddy This Is Your Song

Dear Daddy Its 2016
Please tell me what did you really mean?
When you said we will never grow old?
Is this a lie that you were told?

Overlapping generations
From door to door condemning the nations…
“Gods promises” never came true
Dear Daddy I can’t trust you!

I’m the “son of a bitch” that made you rich!
My mothers dead you buried me in a ditch!
I came back in time to find you
Now I am here and I’m going to remind you

Lier’s will not inherit the Kingdom of God
Dear Daddy you turned into a fraud
Even though you took it all away
Dear Daddy I will have my day!

I’m walking through the broken promise land
Wine color guitar in my hand
A long term liability?
Is that what you really think of me?

I’m the “son of a bitch” that made you rich!
My mothers dead you buried me in a ditch!
I came back in time to find you
Now I am here and I’m going to remind you

You took the goldmine and you gave me the shaft
Told me to stick it so when I land my craft
I will remind you of how you did me wrong
Dear Daddy this is your song!

I’m the “son of a bitch” that made you rich!
My mothers dead you buried me in a ditch!
I came back in time to find you
Now I am here and I’m going to remind you

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We have lift off.

by JeffT in

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i just posted the prologue to my novella "armageddon's slaves" on my blog.

chapters will follow at one or two day intervals.

the whole thing is about thirty chapters, so it should be up in about a month.. i need feedback, so let me know what you think.

Greybeard

Looks like a great start for a book! Good job!

They actually said this? Is there a recording of this talk?

“Yes, my fellow Disciples” Rodgers said, “we know that this year’s series of Grand Gatherings, ‘Paradise is at Hand, ’” the crowd applauded wildly, “will be the last held on this wicked Earth before the Lord Almighty removes sin forever…”

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Don't believe anyone is up there listening - said a prayer anyway out of sense of obligation

by Zoos in

i've read many statements on this forum from people who have expressed the sentiment that you don't shove ttatt down the throat of an older person.

it would be too traumatic and its best to let some people, in some situations, simply pass on in the delusion.. its humane.

merciful.. in the initial roar of my awakening, i was unable to cuddle up to that sentiment; preferring, instead, to shove the blood curdling shock of truth down the throat of anyone i could get my grip on... age be dammed.

Greybeard

Thank you for sharing this. It made me think of my father who is a JW getting old. He would not ask me to say a prayer. He probably wouldn't even see me. If he did he would ask me to "come back to Jehovah" and we all know what that means. Bow down to the men who rule over Jehovah Witnesses without question.

What you did was not easy but very loving and merciful.