I should be in bed instead of posting here. Bruce and Rawe were friends prior to Rawe's last disfellowshipping. As I understand it from someone who should know, Bruce dropped contact afterward, though if Richard called him he was respectful. It is in Bruce's nature to treat people, even those with whom he disagrees, with respect. Bruce is not an 'apostate' what ever that really is.
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43Who is B.W. Schulz? Anyone know?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am writing an article on whether c.t.
russell was a mason.
i am of the opinion that he was not, given the evidence.. i just bought b.w.
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Who is B.W. Schulz? Anyone know?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am writing an article on whether c.t.
russell was a mason.
i am of the opinion that he was not, given the evidence.. i just bought b.w.
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joe, have you read the book? It's verifiable history. Hard to fault that. The WTS has a copy and never expressed an objection to it. Bruce is an old timer who's lived a significant amount of watchtower history. Our books are JUST history. There is no agenda but detailed, factual history. Hard to fault that.
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Who is B.W. Schulz? Anyone know?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am writing an article on whether c.t.
russell was a mason.
i am of the opinion that he was not, given the evidence.. i just bought b.w.
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vienne
NN, you made me laugh.
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Who is B.W. Schulz? Anyone know?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am writing an article on whether c.t.
russell was a mason.
i am of the opinion that he was not, given the evidence.. i just bought b.w.
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vienne
We fund our research partly from our royalties. We make more if you buy it from lulu.com
If you need to buy from Amazon, here is the link:
https://www.amazon.com/Separate-Identity-Organizational-Readers-1870-1887/dp/1304969401
Our bio of Nelson Barbour is here:
There is a link to the less expensive ebook version on that page too.
The Barbour bio needs updating, but we want to finish Separate Identity first.
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Who is B.W. Schulz? Anyone know?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am writing an article on whether c.t.
russell was a mason.
i am of the opinion that he was not, given the evidence.. i just bought b.w.
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vienne
Old Goat who posts here sometimes is a friend. But I'm here mostly to just observe. I have an academic, not a polemic interest. Thanks for the welcome NN
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Who is B.W. Schulz? Anyone know?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am writing an article on whether c.t.
russell was a mason.
i am of the opinion that he was not, given the evidence.. i just bought b.w.
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vienne
Footnote 14 reads
14 Death of Thomas Birney, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Press, January 17, 1899. The obituary misnames his
partner as James R. Woodwell. The membership list for St. John’s Lodge is found in An Address Delivered at the
Request of St. John’s Lodge, no. 219, F. & A.M. at the 444th Stated Meeting, April 12th, 1883, on the History of
the Lodge, and the Establishment of Freemasonry in Pittsburgh. Thomas Birney’s name appears in the
membership list on page 112. No Russells find a place on the list, nor do they receive other mention. For details
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Who is B.W. Schulz? Anyone know?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am writing an article on whether c.t.
russell was a mason.
i am of the opinion that he was not, given the evidence.. i just bought b.w.
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That's his uncle Thomas Birney. See page three and footnotes
Thomas Birney’s obituary gives us significant insights into the Birney and Russell’s early years.
Thomas and family lived first in Meadville, Pennsylvania “for a time.” He moved to Pittsburgh at least
by 1845. The Birneys seem not to have been poor Irish. He entered a partnership with Joseph R.
Woodwell12 who owned an existing wholesale hardware business. Birney started his own firm, Thomas
Birney & Co., sometime before 1869. By that same year he was on the board of directors of the
Guardian Mutual Life Insurance Company of New York.13 He and his family joined Pittsburgh’s
Second Presbyterian Church in 1845. Thomas was a member of St. John Lodge of Free and Accepted
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Who is B.W. Schulz? Anyone know?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am writing an article on whether c.t.
russell was a mason.
i am of the opinion that he was not, given the evidence.. i just bought b.w.
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Both our names appear on the title page. Amazon does bad stuff to author pages. We're pushing to finish volume 2. Originally, we saw this as slim book similar to our biography of Barbour. (Eventually we'll revise that) We were surprised at the amount of original source material. It grew to 2 volumes, and vol. 2 is about 3/4 done. There will be a volume 3. Assuming old age doesn't kill this project, there will be a third book and maybe a 4th. We have a tentative outline for the next book, which we've given the working title, "On the Cusp of Fame."
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Who is B.W. Schulz? Anyone know?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am writing an article on whether c.t.
russell was a mason.
i am of the opinion that he was not, given the evidence.. i just bought b.w.
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Bruce is a long time Witness. Since 1952. He is, however, a careful and honest historian. He retired from teaching this year. His email is on the 'permissions' page of our book. He is elderly and infirm. He "calls a spade a spade" and does not attempt to coverup the warts and pimples of Watch Tower history. As his writing partner, I'd throw a fit if he did. We reject partisanship.
I am not a Witness, though I have relatives who are. Personally, I think our work should stand on its content. It is significantly footnoted so you can reproduce our work. No-one asked about me. I feel slighted. I have a masters degree in education and another in history and a PhD [UniSA] in history. We strive to maintain a high, professional standard in our books.
Oh, and this is my second post. I have yet to say, "Hello." Consider it done.
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Were the apostles of the 'Anointed class' when they partook?
by why144000 inaccording to john 20:22 the apostles did not receive the holy spirit until after jesus was resurrected.
wouldn't this make them part of 'the other sheep' when they partook of the bread and wine?.
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I'm not a Witness; I just write books about them. However, my understanding of Witness doctrine is that "the last supper," was the last valid Passover, hence an obligatory celebration for all Jews and converts. Subsequent celebrations were Christian communions, or using Witness vocabulary, the Lord's memorial supper. The Lord's supper has a cognate but separate meaning than the Passover.