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  Did Watchtower Really Teach That Armageddon Was Coming in 1954?

  by Jerome56 in

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  in the march 2025 jw broadcast david splane in his morning worship talk mentioned that "some thought" that armageddon would come 40 years after 1914. such statements are usually meant to shift the blame of their own false predictions on to their members for speculating.

  however, i was unable to find anything in print showing that such a thing was indeed taught by the society.

  was this really a thing?.

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  I called my grand uncle - I often refer to him as Uncle B - and asked about this. He would know, he was newly active in 1952. The short answer is, "No, the Watchtower did not teach this." However, private speculation circulated fairly widely. He recalled a couple who had been Witnesses since the early 1930s or late 1920s telling a young mother that her three year old wouldn't start kindergarten because Armageddon would occur in 1954. Apparently people reasoned that the 40 year periods in Moses life were prophetic, and since 1954 was 40 years anti-1914, judgment was at hand. To his personal knowledge some were 'counseled' over the speculation.

  What an odd bit of history.
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  New GB member Judy Jedele critizing Job's "humility" while wearing $20,000 Rolex, gold cuff links, coloured suit. Incredible!

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i swear, you can't make this shit up!

  for years and years growing up in this cult, i had to constantly hear from my parents, from the stage, in the literature, about "keeping your eye simple", not being "materialistic", not "having a showy display of one's wealth.

  " of course, this never seemed to apply to the wealthy business owning elduhzzzz who ran and lorded it out over the congregations, but i digress.

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  My grand uncle, a long-time elder, wears a very expensive vintage gold watch. He's a retired teacher. Not rich. The watch was a gift. It was also a thrift store find. My aunt found it and paid thirty-five dollars. Don't presume things, turning them into "facts."
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  New GB member Judy Jedele critizing Job's "humility" while wearing $20,000 Rolex, gold cuff links, coloured suit. Incredible!

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i swear, you can't make this shit up!

  for years and years growing up in this cult, i had to constantly hear from my parents, from the stage, in the literature, about "keeping your eye simple", not being "materialistic", not "having a showy display of one's wealth.

  " of course, this never seemed to apply to the wealthy business owning elduhzzzz who ran and lorded it out over the congregations, but i digress.

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  Doesn't look like a rolex.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses in the news: "I was exiled from my strict Jehovah's Witness community"

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was exiled from my strict jehovah's witness community after i broke a major convention - they'll never speak to me again.

  daily mail.

  "a former jehovah's witness has shared her extraordinary journey of leaving behind everything she knew after falling in love with a colleague at tk maxx.

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  vienne

  As far as I know, one isn't disfellowshipped for dating a "worldly man." More to the story than is presented.
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  Old WT books

  by Biahi in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so, here i am going through boxes and boxes of old wt literature.

  i’m stacking it up from 1940’s to 1990’s.

  i also have quite a few gems, like one 1917 studies in the scriptures.

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  ebay
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  History Stuff

  by vienne in

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  two new articles on https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/ focus on the early days of watchtower missions in korea.

  they reprint material from anti-russell publications.

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  vienne

  Two new articles on https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/ focus on the early days of Watchtower missions in Korea. They reprint material from anti-Russell publications.
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  Announcement of Elijah's Coming

  by ElijahisMe in

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  2. beliefs

  it is with profound humility and reverence that i share a message of great significance.

  in the year 2001, my son and i witnessed the birth of the kingdom of god, experiencing spiritual battles that affirm our divine calling.

  as prophesied in the scriptures, my son is the elijah to come, the forerunner to jesus' second coming.. living in the wilderness by his own choosing, my son embodies the spirit and mission of elijah, preparing the way for the lord.

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  Careful, I was going to ask that, but didn't because I thought it might hurt his feelings. But since you asked him, he's probably just off his meds. His brother might be Napoleon.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Fatboi isn't the first x-Witness to crash and burn. But he's one of the most dramatic. Mom had a file on someone from Vancouver B. C. who suffered a similar fate, but back in the per-internet days. He sent out printed letters and sought to have the Society banned in Canada.

  Leaving the Watchtower does not mean one must leave good sense and morals. When that happens it's like a bounce back effect. I mean, they go from one extreme (the Watchtower) to another (morals, beliefs, etc.)

  Probably none of what I've written above makes a bit of sense. I need another coffee.
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  "Mailing Tracts" from 1919

  by vienne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for a research project, i need clear scans of all of the 1919 small-sized tracts meant for through the mail witnessing.

  can you help?

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  Already checked archive.org and library of congress. They do not have them.
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  "Mailing Tracts" from 1919

  by vienne in

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  2. beliefs

  for a research project, i need clear scans of all of the 1919 small-sized tracts meant for through the mail witnessing.

  can you help?

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  vienne

  For a research project, I need clear scans of all of the 1919 small-sized tracts meant for through the mail witnessing. Can you help?