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Separate Identity vol. 2 - Outline of Contents
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i'm still not ready to write a review of my advance copy, but for those who have waited for the second volume of this history of the watch tower's earliest years, here is an outline of contents.. intro and first five chapters.

introductory essay – b. w. schulz.

historical idealism.
vienne

Chapters 6-10
6 The Publishing Ministry
Day Dawn
Bible Students Tracts and an Expanding Ministry
Tract Supplement No. 1
Tract Supplements No. 2 and 3
Tract Supplement No. 4
Tract Supplement No. 5
Tract No. 6 by A. D. Jones
Tabernacle Teachings and The Chart of the Ages
7 Evangelical Voice
Watch Tower Evangelism
Colportage
Methods
Continuing Advocacy
Outlines of Sermons
Response to Opposition
Evangelical Spirit
The Letters
Minnesota
Michigan
Biographies
William Egbert Page
The Van Amburghs
Johann Adam and Christina Doratha [Dorothea Unkel] Bohnet
Hans Fredrick Peterson
H. V. “Minnie” Peterson and Viola Townsend
Alfred Henry Furley
Arthur Cumberland
Observations
Advocacy Today
8 The Church in Maria’s House
Post-War: 1866-1879
The Eighties
The Nineties
9 New Workers Enter the Field
Brother and Sister McCormack
The Lady Canvasser
The Shoemaker
A Brother in St. Louis
The Doctor
“Brother” McGranor
Others
Nameless Evangelists
Biographies
Donald Edgar Aldrich and other Kansas Evangelists
Robert Bailey
Joseph Brown Keim
Samuel T. Tackabury
Alfred C. Malone
John Bartlet Adamson
William Ellsworth Richards
Josephus Perry Martin
Macon Carter van Hook
John Temple Graves and William Boyer
James Edwin Fitch
G. A. Rose
William Davis Williams
W.G. Gallaway
Powell Samuel Westcott
Edward Colston Leigh
Samuel Ingraham Hickey
Heinrich [Henry] Weber
James Augustus Weimar
Fruitage
Anonymous Evangelists
10 Clergymen and Lay Preachers
Willard Presbury
Knud Pederson Hammer
Joseph Dunn
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Separate Identity vol. 2 - Outline of Contents
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i'm still not ready to write a review of my advance copy, but for those who have waited for the second volume of this history of the watch tower's earliest years, here is an outline of contents.. intro and first five chapters.

introductory essay – b. w. schulz.

historical idealism.
vienne

I'm still not ready to write a review of my advance copy, but for those who have waited for the second volume of this history of the Watch Tower's earliest years, here is an outline of contents.
Intro and first five chapters
Introductory Essay – B. W. Schulz
Historical Idealism
Secondary and Opposition Sources
To the End of the Trail
Introductory Essay 2 – By R. M. de Vienne
Editor’s Note
Acknowledgements and Cooperation
Researching Watch Tower Faith
Formatting and Grammar
My View
What Russell Said The Roots of Watch Tower Belief
Millennialism
Joseph Marsh
Great Awakening and New Lights
Post-Revolution Era
Bibliography
Secondary
2 Seeking Cohesion
Exploring Divergent Views
Satan: Person or Evil Influence?
Foot Washing
Communion
Position of Women
Ango-Isrealitism
Other Issues
Gifts of the Spirit
Water Baptism
Coping with Difference
Personal Issues
Amon Hipsher and Lorenzo Jackson Baldwin
Homer A. King
Persuasion
Entering the Field
Paton’s Preaching Tour
Russell’s Trip East
Chambersburg, Pennsylvania
Reading, Pennsylvania
Newark, New Jersey
Lynn, Massachusetts
Clinton, Massachusetts
Springfield, Massachusetts
Fort Edward and Montrose
Berwick, Pennsylvania
Jersey Shore, Pennsylvania
Russell’s Report
Russell’s Second Tour
November 1880
J. S. Lawver and John C. Foore.
Keith, Sunderlin, and Mann
Gathering Together
Doctrine of Personal Responsibility
3 Out of Babylon
Isolated but Engaged
Inspiration
View of Religion
Congregation Culture
Forming Fellowships and Congregations
Called by His Name
Forming Congregations and Fellowships
New Castle, Pennsylvania
Scranton, Pennsylvania
Forced Out
Texas
Virginia
4 Congregation Culture: 1880-1886
Dissension and Disaffection
Who Were They?
Growing Interest
Numbers
Relationship to the Center
Authority Structure and Result
Crisis Years
5 Organizing and Financing the Work
Watch Tower Society Finances
Incorporating Zion’s Watch Tower Tract Society
Joseph Firth Smith
William Cook Macmillan
Simon Osborne Blunden
Financial Struggles
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Advanced Readers Comment
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
as separate identity v. 2, nears publication, it has generated some comments from advance readers, what writers tend to call "beta readers.

" one is posted to the history blog.

this is from a witness and reflects his point of view.
vienne

I'm still reading parts, so I will comment later. But another advance reader has commented on Mom and B's next volume. I wish mom had lived to read this
https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2019/09/another-comment-on-separate-identity.html
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Advanced Readers Comment
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
as separate identity v. 2, nears publication, it has generated some comments from advance readers, what writers tend to call "beta readers.

" one is posted to the history blog.

this is from a witness and reflects his point of view.
vienne

yes, no. 2 https://www.amazon.com/Separate-Identity-Organizational-Readers-1870-1887/dp/1304969401
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Advanced Readers Comment
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
as separate identity v. 2, nears publication, it has generated some comments from advance readers, what writers tend to call "beta readers.

" one is posted to the history blog.

this is from a witness and reflects his point of view.
vienne

I've read most of it, and I continue to read. When I finish it, I'll post my own comments here. I like what I've read. But then, since mom was coauthor, I'm a bit prejudice.
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Advanced Readers Comment
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
as separate identity v. 2, nears publication, it has generated some comments from advance readers, what writers tend to call "beta readers.

" one is posted to the history blog.

this is from a witness and reflects his point of view.
vienne

Hi everyone,
As Separate Identity v. 2, nears publication, it has generated some comments from advance readers, what writers tend to call "beta readers." One is posted to the history blog. This is from a Witness and reflects his point of view. I find it interesting, even if I do not agree with bits of it. You may want to read it. Mom and Bruce worked hard on this book to get it right, to tell an honest, full story. I think the person who posted this comment is uncomfortable with the honesty. But ... read it. Tell me what you think.
https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2019/09/some-preliminary-thoughts-on-separate.html
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Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow
by Corney in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
the montana case enters the home stretch.

the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).

an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).
vienne

I do not see the distinction, except in the minds of Witnesses, between a Watchtower Elder and clergy. Two of my uncles are elders. They're nice men, but they do what clergy do. How is there a difference? Sorry for taking this a bit off topic.
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What did Charles Taze Russell and the Bible Students believe?
by Pallbearer in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know that present-day jehovah's witnesses believe that 144,000 are to go to heaven and rule alongside jesus, and that the survivors of armageddon along with those who will be resurrected are to live on earth with the prospect of living here forever.. questions:.

> what did pastor russell and the bible students originally believe about the earth?.

> did they believe that the earth would always exist and that it would become a paradise?.
vienne

You will want to read this: https://www.amazon.com/Separate-Identity-Organizational-Readers-1870-1887/dp/1304969401
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What’s Your Favorite Breakfast??
by minimus in
1. jw
2. friends
to me, breakfast can be served at any time of the day.

a local bar in my area serves breakfast all day long.

for 5 bucks you get 2 eggs any way you like, bacon sausage or ham with home fries and toast!!
vienne

Buttermilk pancakes with sausage. Or scrambled eggs with melty cheese and what ever is handy .... umm cream cheese and black olives work. Almost any breakfast any time.
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Separate Identity vol 2
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the afterword to volume 2, complete in rough draft is here https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/ impressions?.
vienne

Thanks, Earnest. I've passed your notes onto Dr. Schulz for his consideration. He and my mom wrote this book, though the afterword is all his. Mom died and did not contribute to this essay.