Posts by vienne

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Disassociated for smoking at 15 years old then later after years of shinning befriended again.

by TjHunt in

after my 4 and 6 year old sisters and i (5) were molested and covered up by elders, at 15 i'm disassociated for smoking.

then years later after attending a passover with family members, i'm not suddenly disassociated anymore and attempted befriending begins.

wow.

vienne

The terminology is wrong. Significantly. This is fiction.

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Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

by minimus in

jw
friends

the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

what’s your view of this?

vienne

Racism is ill defined, often incorrectly so. True racism exists, but it's not pervasive in this country.

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Russia v. Jehovah's Witnesses

by vienne in

interesting.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgwuu0vj2tm.

vienne

menrov,

Theological difference may seem extreme to those of us who believe differently, but the issue in Russia is political extremism. Witnesses are not a threat to the state. I believe that is the issue.

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What’s Your View On Self Defense?

by minimus in

jw
friends

if someone comes to you with a knife or a gun, would you defend yourself if you could?

if someone tried to beat you up , would you physically engage, run away or just try to talk the person out of beating you up or robbing you?

if you did have a gun to defend yourself would you shoot to kill or would you simply aim for the ankle to incapacitate the person?

If you shoot to maim, it might not stop the attack, and the criminal can turn around an sue you. Personally, a clear shot to the heart of head is my choice, and yes, I have a pistol. It was my mom's; now it's mine. And I'm a very good shot.

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Russia v. Jehovah's Witnesses

by vienne in

interesting.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgwuu0vj2tm.

vienne

Interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGwuu0vj2tM

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Belgian Civil Rights Attorney's comments on the Ghent decision

by vienne in

this and several other articles are here: https://bitterwinter.org/excommunication-looking-for-a-balance-of-interests-between-opposite-freedoms/.

vienne

I think we're over rating the ethics of journalists. Aside from which the author is an attorney, a profession with equally questionable ethics.

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Watchtower caught lying about the real reason Beth Sarim was built

by Diogenesister in

another incredible catch from a you tuber, this time jane doh, who caught watchtower fooling us again, this time over the reasons beth sarim was really built.. of course we knew rutherford lived in beth sarim during the winter (ostensibly because of his poorly chest🙄).

however even we didn't guess he blatantly got the poor jws, or bible students as they were, to cough up from the proceeds of their book sales enough to buy him a "cali-fornication" mansion (for he & the girlfriend😜) with absolutely no pretence (at the time) it was for the "ancient worthies".that came later.... how did she know?

because at the time it was built, in the 1920s, watchtower had no belief that anyone was to live on a "paradise earth" - they had not even formulated the concept of a paradise earth yet for the ancient worthies to live on and believed all jws were to live in heaven.

vienne

Belief in a paradise earth is found in Zion's Watch Tower from Russell's day. It wasn't new in the 1920s/1930s. What was new was seeing the Great Multitude [Great Crowd] as an earthly 'class.' Prior to 1935 they believed them to be a secondary heavenly class. So in this case there really isn't a lie.

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jw
friends

some call it reverse discrimination.

whatever you want to refer to as, in your opinion, are white people being unfairly picked on?

it seems acceptable that if you are white you are viewed with disdain.

vienne

yes.