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  W. H. Conley

  by vienne in

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  a new article about w. h. conley: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

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  vienne

  A new article about W. H. Conley: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/
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  Could end of November be special?

  by Kosonen in

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  did you know that noah entered the ark in the end part of november and also that jesus' followers flead jerusalem around 25th of november 66ce?.

  could it be that a significant group of jehovah's witnesses would begin to flee to the "wilderness" in the end of november?

  revelation 12 speaks about a flight of a symbolic woman to a wilderness.

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  vienne

  Apparently Kosonen thinks of himself as some sort of modern day prophet. He needs mental health counseling and some medications. His mental problems explain why he became a Witness and why he left. Sad, huh?
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  This church covered up my abuse

  by Youngaposthate in

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  this church covered up my abuse and got away with it..

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  vienne

  Posts such as this peg my 'troll meter.' Do you know of any Witness or former Witness that would call it a "church"?
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  Have you ever told and Elder or Pioneer, MS to piss off?

  by Overrated in

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  i had an elder that was very nosey in my business.

  i was so to the point and told him to screw off.

  have any you have any stories like this?.

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  vienne

  Yes. and my mom did that on a regular basis. they believed that because my grandmother and other relatives were witnesses they had some place in my mom's life. that extends to me and my relationship to my elder uncles. I'm not a witness, though I am largely sympathetic. I do not like controlling behaviors.
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  The Cross in Pompeii & Herculaneum in 79 AD

  by Sea Breeze in

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  can someone please tell the wt janitor to turn the lights off when the last jw leaves the watchtower after learning that early christians used the cross as a christian logo of sorts?

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  vienne

  or better yet:

  https://brill.com/view/journals/vc/72/1/article-p1_1.xml?language=en

  and

  https://books.google.com/books?id=x2EKt2ZfDWwC&pg=PA125&dq=The+Cross+in+Pompeii+and+Herculaneum&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZ9I3FuaDzAhVOnp4KHQfxBMsQ6AF6BAgQEAI#v=onepage&q=The%20Cross%20in%20Pompeii%20and%20Herculaneum&f=false
  
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  The Cross in Pompeii & Herculaneum in 79 AD

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone please tell the wt janitor to turn the lights off when the last jw leaves the watchtower after learning that early christians used the cross as a christian logo of sorts?

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  vienne

  Isn't that really the cross of Osiris? Is there a record of any Christian house having a shrine with a cup offering? that would not comport with the command to "flee from Idolatry."

  I think this is wishful thinking.
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  Emotional Blackmail

  by Iamallcool in

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  i have jw relatives that is trying to make me feel bad.

  i think they hope it will help me return to the borg.

  not!

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  vienne

  We all have the ability to say, "Stop that!"
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  This Generation

  by vienne in

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  he's always a pleasure to listen to.

  tell me what you think:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db2l1oyju1s.

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  vienne

  He's always a pleasure to listen to. Tell me what you think:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db2l1OyjU1s
  
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  A Question For The Scholarly Re Gilgamesh

  by jonahstourguide in

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  2. bible

  hi all.. read this article re the gilgamesh clay tablet.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-21/us-returns-gilgamesh-tablet-to-iraq/100478858.

  how does it impact the dating of the biblical flood?

  it seems earlier.. i am going to do some research myself to make a comparison.. it's interesting as i have not previously heard of the tablet but have heard of the.

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  vienne

  This is way outside my field of study. But my thought, for what it's worth:

  There is no way to successfully date the Biblical account and the various flood myths. All dating is based on speculation and on preference.

  Could the 8 survivors noted in the Genesis story refill the earth? Given prolific reproduction [no birth control is a factor here], yes. Whether that could happen in the short time the Bible seems to allow, I do not know. That would take some mathematic calculations based on tones of guess work. But I think you could construct a model of population growth over time. Anyone truly ambitious?
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  Are JW Masters of Deception?

  by Iamallcool in

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  we do know that many of them are masters of deception!

  can you give us some examples?

  i notice that some worldly people think jw are very honest people but we know better than that!

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  Under educated, maybe sometimes. Full of nonsense? Often. Not scripturally literate. But committed to their belief. Masters of deception? Not masters of anything. I think.