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  What is your IQ? Does it Matter?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  i had an aunt that had rheumatic fever as a child and only had an iq the high 70's.

  but, absolutely no one was able to bs her on an emotional level.

  she had an uncanny ability to see through people's bs.

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  I'm a Mensa member and have an IQ past 150. I also struggle with higher math. I can balance my checkbook. Which is good, I suppose. I hated Trig and Chemistry. Being intelligent as measured by an IQ does not prevent you from saying or doing or believing stupid things. Best I can tell, being a Mensa member means you probably understand 'insider' jokes faster than someone else.

  One of my mom's 'educational psychology' texts defines intelligence as the ability to make closer and closer connections; to associate ideas in more complex ways faster than others. I accept that. But if your best friend takes a week to grasp what you understood instantly, the difference between you is minimal, isn't it?

  Annie
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  Coercion at its worst: religious mandated shunning

  by Yomama in

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  by patrick haeck any comments on article?.

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  They appealed this, I think. What was the result?
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  Ripped as Jahova

  by JahDorula in

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  send money.

  please.

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  I have a £1000 note from Biafra. Will that do?
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  ... and three kings he will humiliate...Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine

  by scotoma in

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  why ukraine, georgia and moldova should choose the eu ...www.forbes.com/.../why-ukraine-georgia-and-moldova-should-ch...forbe.

  oct 13, 2014 - by vasil jaiani - despite the risk, ukraine, georgia and moldova are still ...russia has been fiercely opposing integration of the former soviet ...russia's punitive trade policy measures towards ukraine ...www.ceps.eu/.../russias-punitive-trade-policy-measures-towards-ukraine.... sep 25, 2014 - russia's punitive trade policy measures towards ukraine, moldova and georgia.if you don't have adobe reader, you can download it here.eu signs pacts with ukraine, georgia and moldova - bbc.comwww.bbc.com/.../world-europe-280526...british broadcasting corporation.

  jun 27, 2014 - ukraine, georgia and moldova have signed partnership agreements with theeuropean union, in a move strongly opposed by russia.

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  The original post came wrapped in a ribbon, but all it contains is stale fruitcake.
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  Not On Simon's Board--The Forbidden File!

  by Atlantis in

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  hi mike:.

  the file you have requested, is a file i will not provide a link for out here on simon's board.

  i will be happy to give you a link for that "forbidden" file in private.

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  I would very much like the file, Atlantis
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  Not On Simon's Board--The Forbidden File!

  by Atlantis in

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  hi mike:.

  the file you have requested, is a file i will not provide a link for out here on simon's board.

  i will be happy to give you a link for that "forbidden" file in private.

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  Atlantis,

  Very interesting. I respect you immensely. But without documentary proof, isn't this all speculative. A bit like fan fiction in reverse? Why are files from the 1920s damaging to Simon and this board?
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  Another example of how Watchtower are rewriting their own history.

  by skin in

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  from today's daily wt text.. friday, december 31 2021.let your kingdom come.

  let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth.​—matt.

  6:10. christendom generally does not teach the scriptural truth that one day obedient humans will live forever on earth.

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  Russell and Watch Tower adherents were Restiutionists. They believed in a restored paradise earth. This was derived from the Literalist/Age to Come movement and is traceable to the first century. What Rutherford did was 'clarify' who the great multitude of Revelation were supposed to be. He did not introduce the thought of an earthly inheritance.

  Note that the Watchtower wrote: "Christendom generally does not teach the Scriptural truth that one day obedient humans will live forever on earth."

  This quietly acknowledges that some churches do teach that. Among these are the Abrahamic Faith bodies. The largest of these is The Church of God General Conference (Atlanta). Russell was connected to this group in his early days, some of them calling him "brother."
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  Former Elder, Pioneer and WT Writer Earns 9 Science Degrees - Jerry Bergman, Ph.D., BiologyJerry Bergman, Ph.D., Biology

  by Sea Breeze in

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  jerry bergman, ph.d., biology.

  biography.

  jerry bergman has taught biology, genetics, chemistry, biochemistry, anthropology, geology, and microbiology at northwest state college in archbold oh for over 25 years.

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  Mother: WSU BA; International BEd; WGU Master of Ed., Phd history UniSA. Knock yourself out.

  Uncle B? Ask him yourself.

  Almost all of Bruce's Master's Thesis is found in Nelson Barbour: The Millennium's Forgotten Prophet.

  Most of his dissertation is found in the first two Separate Identity volumes. I do not think that Berkshire's dissertations are online, especially from that many years ago.

  You are trying to relieve my complaint about Bergman by finding something against my mother. That is disreputable. Probably explains why you are no longer a Witness.
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  Do Jehovah's Witnesses shun non-believers and those who leave the faith?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  graeme hammond writes:.

  in his 2002 book that examined the behaviour and practices of jehovah’s witnesses, english sociologist andrew holden devoted an entire chapter to the trauma and friction experienced by those who choose to leave the jehovah’s witness religion.

  “those who do eventually break free,” he concluded, “are seldom allowed a dignified exit.”.

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  Isn't the answer that Jehovah's Witnesses see those outside the faith as contaminates? They see those who've left as a kind of virulent bacteria. Don't touch. Wash your hands. Isolate.
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  Former Elder, Pioneer and WT Writer Earns 9 Science Degrees - Jerry Bergman, Ph.D., BiologyJerry Bergman, Ph.D., Biology

  by Sea Breeze in

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  jerry bergman, ph.d., biology.

  biography.

  jerry bergman has taught biology, genetics, chemistry, biochemistry, anthropology, geology, and microbiology at northwest state college in archbold oh for over 25 years.

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  It is obvious that we're not getting anywhere. You seem him as some sort of hero of the faith. I see him as having a cloud over his reputation. I see no reason to change my opinion. You can keep yours.

  This discussion, from my pov, isn't about his belief in Creation. I believe in Creation as presented in the Bible. It's about his honesty and the value of what he's written. I do not hold him in the same esteem as you do.