Posts by vienne

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
vienne

I still read this thread, but I don't know why. If he ever had any relevance, he's lost it.
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Gun Ownership - A question for American Witnesses (or Ex-Witnesses)
by no-zombie in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i would like to ask a question regarding gun ownership in the active american witnesses community.

while rifle ownership has been put in the same category as spear guns and fishing rods, how has the issue of pistol ownership been handled in us congregations?

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vienne

One of my uncles, a long-serving elder, had a pistol and no one questioned it. He used it for competitive, timed shoots. That is, how fast and accurate can you be on targets at distance. He'd still own it, he says, but one of his brother in laws stole it.
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1942 Book "The New World"
by Debra Ann Romano in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i grew up in a magnificent, 3-story, greek revival house on the once very rural staten island ny.

the house was originally part of a huge compound, cannery, farm, and wbbr radio station owned by the watchtower society.

my late grandparents purchased 1065 woodrow rd in 1957 and that is where i spent the next 12 years of my life.
vienne

This appears to be George M. Russell. The problem is there were at least four with that name living in or associated with Staten Island and Brooklyn. Best I can do at this time.
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Are Both The JW And The Ex-JW Community a Cult?
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
charlie ryde writes:.

let us use the same bite model for determining if something is a cult to both being a jw and being ex-jw.

mind you this is a short summary.. b- behavioral control.
vienne

Short answer, yes.
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Do you know of any church that KNOWS God?
by the-MadJW in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i mean, the jws have many faults, as each of us have.. do you know any other group that does?.
vienne

Hi Jan,
No, the Westboro Baptists do not represent most Baptist faiths. Baptists in general, in America at least, no longer know their Bible, do not see it as fully relevant, do not follow it, at least not as men of faith. They are Biblically illiterate.
Annie
11530
It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
vienne

Does Lloyd Boy realize that he's become irrelevant? He lost most of his patrons. His videos are on the silly side, repetitious, full of logic faults, resembling a 7 year old's "that's not fair!"
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Do you know of any church that KNOWS God?
by the-MadJW in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i mean, the jws have many faults, as each of us have.. do you know any other group that does?.
vienne

I have visited many churches and had more conversations with clergy and lay people than I can count. I probably med a few people who knew God as well as one can. But a church that as a whole that knows God. I haven't found one yet.
Mom associated with an Abrahamic Faith congregation for quite a while. They have some basic similarities to Witnesses without wild prophetic speculation and dictatorial administration. But she left eventually, staying friends with some, but unable to tolerate some behaviors.
Christians are where you find them. I mean a God following individual may be anywhere despite what their church is. Baptists? Hardly. They do not know the Bible and as a group do not follow it.
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Very early Watch Tower Material
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
many of my posts ask for scans of rare watchtower relevant material.

usually that produces no result.

this time i'm showing images of some.
vienne

1. As I said, these are too fragile to scan
2. Atlantis and I are not on "speaking terms.",
3. They don't belong to me, and I could'nt make the decision in any event.
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Very early Watch Tower Material
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
many of my posts ask for scans of rare watchtower relevant material.

usually that produces no result.

this time i'm showing images of some.
vienne

Many of my posts ask for scans of rare Watchtower relevant material. Usually that produces no result. This time I'm showing images of some. Uncle B acquired these, trading off an early songbook and a book of poems. Probably almost none of you have seen these. Please don't ask for scans. I'd make them if these were not very, very fragile. Enjoy:
https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2023/01/three-booklets.html
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New GB
by XBEHERE in
1. jw
2. friends
gage fleegle.

jeffrey winder.

anyone know them?
vienne

Depending on the source of Witness FDS doctrine, it is either hero worship accepted by the governing body, or a not unexpected but totally out of place pride.