Posts by vienne

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La préhistoire des témoins de Jéhovah

by vienne in

https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2023/07/la-prehistoire-des-temoins-de-jehovah.html.

a short review of professor blandre's new book about russell's antecedents.

it is in french.

It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Lloyd has little to say, and none of that is original. He is repetitious. He is a follower who tries to present his work as original. I do not know what lower grades report cards are like in the UK, but I'd bet that "gets along well with others" was not checked on his. He's a bully and a fake. And worst of all, he is boring.

I detest his behavior. His sexual adventures are revolting. But if he had something meaningful to say, I'd listen. He doesn't. He never has.

In a general way, personality matters. If you yell and rant; if you present yourself as a scholar when you are not; if you're smarmy; if you're a sycophant; if you put on the 'gay boy voice'; if you dress like a pirate, you will turn away audience. [Yes, you probably know which youtube presenters I mean.] Fake personalities do not cover inadequate content. Lloyd's work falls in the category "inadequate." The work of some others does also.

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La préhistoire des témoins de Jéhovah

by vienne in

https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2023/07/la-prehistoire-des-temoins-de-jehovah.html.

a short review of professor blandre's new book about russell's antecedents.

it is in french.

vienne

https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2023/07/la-prehistoire-des-temoins-de-jehovah.html

A short review of professor Blandre's new book about Russell's antecedents. It is in French. I haven't finished it yet. I'm about two thirds through. I can recommend it based on what I've read. Probably no book is totally accurate, and this isn't either. But it's really good.

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Treatment of Those Trying For Reinstatement

by Vanderhoven7 in

what happens when a jehovah’s witness who has been disfellowshipped returns to attending the meetings again?.

mark jones writes:.

if it's the same congregation that they previously attended then, yes, the congregation will remember who they are and so continue to treat them as dead or invisible.. one of the identifying marks a cult is that it uses shame and humiliation to control members, to keep them from leaving and manipulating those who escaped into coming back.. a disfellowshipped person is never allowed to quietly leave with dignity.

vienne

I am an outsider. So I write this from that perspective. The Watchtower only trains its elders in procedures. Where is the in-depth scripture training? They appear to believe that weekly meetings provide enough. Yet, when I talk to them, I find them largely ignorant of the Bible's content. This is inexcusable.

How clergy treat the flock identifies them either as true disciples of Christ or wolves. I wasn't there to see it, but I believe Lee's story. There is no compassion in the hearts of men such as that. Compassion is possible even when a religion has strict standards.

I have met some Witness elders who are both kind and true students of the Bible. They are few. I disagree with Witness theology in several key areas. But it is how their authority figures act that really repels me.

Anastasia (Annie)

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"How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

by BoogerMan in

simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

vienne

not what the Watchtower actually teaches.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

vienne

His 'mind', such as it is, is like the Colorado River. Shallow, and in so deep a channel he'll never find a new path.

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Ecclesiastes 9:5 -"the dead know nothing at all"

by aqwsed12345 in

the narrator of the book of ecclesiastes had very little knowledge of many things that jesus and his apostles later preached.

the author does not make statements, but only wonders (thinks, observes, often raises questions, and leaves them open).

he looked at the world based on the law of moses and found nothing but vanity, as the earthly reward promised in the law did not always accompany good deeds and earthly punishment for evil deeds.

i left on the 21st february on my 56th birthday.. .

i was sentenced to 5 years for my neutral stand in south africa.

vienne

Down vote this if you must, but I am skeptical. Too many questions to take this at face value.

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History Puzzle

by vienne in

i'm trying to solve a mystery for uncle b. he owns three antique tracts that were bound into one volume for william morris wright, for six years a society director.

two are easy to identify.

its title is: "the times of the gentiles, and the things which are.

vienne

Jeff is very belpful.