One of my best friends was a Witness named Antonious de Geuss. He lived in the Netherlands. He was an adept researcher, often finding things Dr. Schulz and I could not. Unfortunately he died, He was very, very old. We have others who are interested in our work who supplement our efforts, sometimes finding much we could not. I hope to find someone who is more competent than we are. They're out there.
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11You tired of me asking for help yet?
by vienne inan early watch tower evangelist was e. c. leigh.
in 1882, he was a student in allegheny city, pennsylvania.
he traveled through the central states in the 1880s and early 1890s.
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You tired of me asking for help yet?
by vienne inan early watch tower evangelist was e. c. leigh.
in 1882, he was a student in allegheny city, pennsylvania.
he traveled through the central states in the 1880s and early 1890s.
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An early Watch Tower evangelist was E. C. Leigh. In 1882, he was a student in Allegheny City, Pennsylvania. He traveled through the central states in the 1880s and early 1890s. By mid 1890s he was living in Fort Worth Texas. We do not know his full name. Can you find it?
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by vienne inas at least some of you know, i am coauthor of two history books about zion's watch tower's earliest years.
we are at a dead end with one of the watch tower's earliest evangelists, s. d. rogers.
we do not know his first name or have any biography outside of a scattering of newspaper articles and mentions in zwt.
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Thanks Tomas. But that's my blog. [Insert giggle here]
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by vienne inas at least some of you know, i am coauthor of two history books about zion's watch tower's earliest years.
we are at a dead end with one of the watch tower's earliest evangelists, s. d. rogers.
we do not know his first name or have any biography outside of a scattering of newspaper articles and mentions in zwt.
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He may have been born in Canada. We don't know but there is a hint that he was. In 1904 he gave his address as Vassar, Michigan. There was a Samuel D. Rogers living in Lapeer, Michigan, near J. H. Paton. Don't know if that's him.
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by vienne inas at least some of you know, i am coauthor of two history books about zion's watch tower's earliest years.
we are at a dead end with one of the watch tower's earliest evangelists, s. d. rogers.
we do not know his first name or have any biography outside of a scattering of newspaper articles and mentions in zwt.
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Thanks for that. We're seeking a definitive ID with first and middle name. He was born, according to his passport application, about 1847, He seems to have lived in Michigan.
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by vienne inas at least some of you know, i am coauthor of two history books about zion's watch tower's earliest years.
we are at a dead end with one of the watch tower's earliest evangelists, s. d. rogers.
we do not know his first name or have any biography outside of a scattering of newspaper articles and mentions in zwt.
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wifi, thanks for your effort. Sometimes we find things with ease, sometimes not. Roger's identity is a puzzle.
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by vienne inas at least some of you know, i am coauthor of two history books about zion's watch tower's earliest years.
we are at a dead end with one of the watch tower's earliest evangelists, s. d. rogers.
we do not know his first name or have any biography outside of a scattering of newspaper articles and mentions in zwt.
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Research Help?
by vienne inas at least some of you know, i am coauthor of two history books about zion's watch tower's earliest years.
we are at a dead end with one of the watch tower's earliest evangelists, s. d. rogers.
we do not know his first name or have any biography outside of a scattering of newspaper articles and mentions in zwt.
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As at least some of you know, I am coauthor of two history books about Zion's Watch Tower's earliest years. We are at a dead end with one of the Watch Tower's earliest evangelists, S. D. Rogers. We do not know his first name or have any biography outside of a scattering of newspaper articles and mentions in ZWT.
Can you - will you - explore this. Help me find out who this man really was.
Thanks for your help.
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Russell's aleged freemasonry on JWfacts.com
by NikL inpaul has written an interesting piece on jwfacts.com .
https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/russell-not-a-freemason.php.
anyway, it jogged my memory and reminded me of something i thought i would pass on to you.back in the late 80s i had the opportunity to chat with ray franz on the phone and i asked him about this very thing.he didn't say yes or no to russel's masonic connection but what he said was something like, "he is buried in the masonic section of the cemetery so draw your own conclusion.
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Crazy,
He's not buried at a Masonic site. He's buried at the old Watch Tower cemetery, now part of Rosemont cemetery. The pyramid is not his tombstone. It isn't a Masonic pyramid, but is modeled after the headstone for Piazzi Smyth.
This is what we wrote in Separate Identity, volume 1:
Pyramid
A pyramid shaped monument was installed in the Bible Student cemetery in Pittsburgh. The cemetery is occasionally described as Masonic. It’s not. There is a Masonic temple nearby built years later. There is no connection. The pyramid was intended as a general monument with the names of those buried in the Watch Tower plots engraved onto open books. Rather than being a Masonic symbol, the open book motif derives from the book of Revelation. Those who want to cast Russell as part of some great Masonic conspiracy claim the pyramid embodies the “all seeing eye.” It does not. The pyramid symbol refers to Russell’s belief, shared by many others who did not otherwise hold his views, that the Great Pyramid at Gizah was a divinely inspired testimony in stone to Bible truth. We trace the development of this idea in Chapter Three. The use of the pyramid as a monument was suggested not by the back of the US dollar which had an entirely different design in 1920, but by the grave marker for Charles Piazzi Smyth, a prominent pyramidologist and Astronomer Royal of Scotland.
The monument was installed in 1919, some years after Russell’s death. One source suggests Russell designed it, a Bible Student convention report saying: “The Pyramid, as you will note, has an open book carved on each side, intended by Brother Russell for the names of Bethel workers as they ceased their work and were laid at rest, awaiting the great Resurrection of the first-fruits of the Lord.”[1] A Bible Student web page takes pains to blame the pyramid monument on Rutherford rather than Russell. Neither of these statements is correct. The monument was designed not as a memorial to Russell but “as a memorial to the society.” It was “designed by Brother Bohnet, and accepted by Brother Russell as the most fitting emblem for an enduring monument on the Society’s burial space.” According to Bohnet, work started in 1914. The pyramid’s purpose was not Masonic.[2]
[1] Souvenir Notes from the Reunion Convention of Christian Bible Students: Pittsburgh, Pa., November 1-2-3, 1929.
[2] Souvenir Notes from the Bible Student’s Convention: Pittsburgh, Pa., January 2-5, 1919, page 7.
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Russell's aleged freemasonry on JWfacts.com
by NikL inpaul has written an interesting piece on jwfacts.com .
https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/russell-not-a-freemason.php.
anyway, it jogged my memory and reminded me of something i thought i would pass on to you.back in the late 80s i had the opportunity to chat with ray franz on the phone and i asked him about this very thing.he didn't say yes or no to russel's masonic connection but what he said was something like, "he is buried in the masonic section of the cemetery so draw your own conclusion.
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F, It's not a Knight's Templar symbol. It's a reference to the 'complete suit of armor' Christians are to put on. See Ephesians chapter six.
Suspicion of a secretive order does not mean Russell was connected to them. The so-called secrecy is a myth. Their 'secret books' are easily found by a determined researcher.