M. James Penton praised mom and B's first book. It's in the biblio of his last edition. Mom was very pleased. A French writer whose name I cannot remember did the same in something he wrote. Things like this always pleased mom.
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Mom has three full sisters and a half sister, grandpa, five daughters including me, dad, more cousins, nephews and nieces than are easy to count. We've been flooded by phone calls and emails some from relatives I've never met. On the other hand some fairly nasty comments are appearing on an Italian pro-Witness site. I find this disturbing.
Mom did not actively oppose Witnesses, though that isn't her religion. We have Witness relatives who have been a big part of our life. Two of my uncles by marriage are Elders, and they aren't like that. It makes me sad and angry that people who never knew mom, never read what she wrote, never attended one of her lectures or classes, can turn nasty.
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Mom was 41.
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Hi,
I'm Annie, Rachael's daughter. Mom died yesterday. I can't find a way to delete her account here. Do I just leave it as it is?
I know mom liked 'talking' to people here. She was very ill for a long time. She wanted to live to see her next book, the one she was writing with Bruce, published. The book will be published without her.
We are all very sad.
Annie
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You are afraid of children Jehovah witnesses after criminal tragedy in Kerch 2018?
by Pit123123 inwhy are the leaders of the watchtower corporation modestly silent about this shame jehovah witnesses?.
all children jehovah witnesses potential terrorist?.
only not politics!
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Simon, he has all the hallmarks of a typical Russian troll: presumptions without evidence, associations without foundation. Kinda sad.
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Is White Nationalism A Major Problem In Your Opinion?
by minimus inafter seeing the atrocity in new zealand, do you think white nationalism is a major issue affecting you or where you live?.
somebody already called out chelseaclinton, blaming her for the attack!
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I'm white. I do not feel bad for being white. Privilege? I worked for everything I have. What privilege?
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When did jws start viewing the "worldly" as bad associates?
by nowawake14 inany of you that had been in the organization for decades are welcome to answer.
really, who started this craziness?.
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From the forthcoming volume 2 of our Separate Identity:
Russell wrote a commentary on the First Psalm, saying said that the “righteous man” pictured “those … justified by faith … new creatures, walking in their Master’s footsteps.” They were “sometimes imperfect” through fleshly weakness. The Psalm says the righteous should avoid: “(1) the ungodly – literally, the wicked, (2) sinners or transgressors, and (3) scorners or the conceited and unteachable.” “The proper course is to have no fellowship (sympathy and common interest) with people of any of these classes.” Russell wrote that this did “not mean that we are to treat them unkindly or discourteously, nor that we are never to be seen walking, standing or sitting with such; but it does imply that our company should, as far as possible, be select, and of those who reverence our God, and that other fellowships should not be encouraged.”
Russell felt most believers would avoid common sinners and the unquestionably wicked. But most were “in danger of getting into fellowship with the scorners or unteachable.” Association with them would lead “to the same spirit, and that leads gradually to violation of the covenant with God; and that leads to open wickedness and willful sin.” The safe way was to have “no fellowship with darkness: it is never profitable.” This affected church affiliation:
"In all the nominal churches there are many who have a form of godliness, but who are really ungodly – far from being in harmony with God and his plan. In the nominal churches are also many sinners, living in known violation of their covenant with God. And there, too, may be found, alas! sometimes even in the pulpits, those who are of an unteachable, haughty spirit, who even scoff at God’s Word and make it void through their traditions. Come out from among them; and neither sit, nor stand, nor walk in fellowship with such. (Rev. 18:4; Isa. 52:11.) Stand with God, even if that should seem to imply standing alone. The Lord knoweth them that are his, and he has yet more than seven thousand who bow not to the idol of sectarianism."[1]
Obedience to the principals of good fellowship brought happiness rather than social isolation:
"Some might suppose that one thus isolated would have an unhappy lot; but no, he is truly said to have a delightful experience. He delights day and night in meditating upon God’s will and plan. In this he finds a joy and a peace which the world and a worldly church can neither give nor take away. One thus consecrated and full of the spirit of the Lord finds that God’s laws of righteousness are not restraints which he would fain be freed from; but, like the Master, he can say, “I delight to do thy will, O my God: thy law is engraven in my heart.”"[2]
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Do You Think The Bible Teaches A Trinity As Religions Teach?
by minimus ini’m not asking whether you believe in the bible.
i just want your opinion as to whether you think the bible teaches it.
i don’t, for what it’s worth..
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No, the Trinity doctrine does not appear in the Bible.
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JUNE 2019 Watchtower: Higher Education - HQ & Bethels are populated with evil, educated folks!
by The Fall Guy inhow alienated from jehovah and un-christian so many bethelites must be, who finished their higher education and gained their degrees!
i don't know how they can live with their consciences!.
pages 6 & 7, pars.
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Higher education can lead you into nonsense. It often does. BUT it also teaches you how to reason, refute, defend.