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  Mom's book ...

  by vienne in

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  2. beliefs

  i don't know how many are interested in watchtower history.

  mom and bruce wrote this, and it received a new amazon review today.

  here is the review of https://www.amazon.com/separate-identity-organizational-readers-1870-1887/dp/1304969401 .

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  Dr. Schulz [I could call him uncle B as I do in person] but this seems like a more formal setting] says that three chapters remain to be finished. And an afterward. There will be edits after that. Of the three chapters, two are nearing completion.

  He tells me volume three exists as a few chapters, an outline and bunches of notes. It is some distance in the future.

  I might add that, watching my mom work on this, that much hard work and intense research goes into this project to make it as detailed and accurate as possible. I'm an amateur writer, still "in school." This has been a learning experience for me.

  Mom and B's book about Nelson Barbour is on Lulu. B tells me that a revised and enlarged edition is in the works but 'on the back burner' as he puts the second volume of Separate Identity in final format.

  Mom and B planned the next book, called On the Cusp of Fame, covering the years 1887-1912. B still plans to write that, though it seems to me to be a far more complex research project.

  I hope it is okay that I use mom's old account here instead of making my own.
  

  Annie
  
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  Mom's book ...

  by vienne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't know how many are interested in watchtower history.

  mom and bruce wrote this, and it received a new amazon review today.

  here is the review of https://www.amazon.com/separate-identity-organizational-readers-1870-1887/dp/1304969401 .

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  Hi,

  I don't know how many are interested in Watchtower history. Mom and Bruce wrote this, and it received a new Amazon review today. Here is the review of https://www.amazon.com/Separate-Identity-Organizational-Readers-1870-1887/dp/1304969401

  The Professor 5.0 out of 5 stars a comprehensive study May 23, 2019
  
  Format: Paperback Verified Purchase

  This is a mammoth study of the early Bible Student and related groups. It is 358 pages of 8.5 x 11 paper in small print. Of what I read so far it is accurate. I know of no other study that is even close in comprehensiveness, documentation and breath, looking not just at Russell but related groups and persons including Barbour, John Paton and others. The author looks at not only historical record but also critics of the movement including Professor Penton and Carl Johnson. The last page was intended to be an index which never was finished. It would have been an invaluable addition to the book. This book was clearly a lifetime work.

  
  

  Just as a note: The index will be in the last volume, volume 3. - Annie [Anastasia]
  
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  Bound vol question

  by rockemsockem in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did the wt reprint bound vol.?

  if so how long after the first printing did they reprint?

  also how do you tell an original from reprint?

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  Yes, sometime around 1980 the Watchtower Society reprinted the Watchtower from 1951 into the 1960s at least. Checking mom's books and comparing the reprints to the original volumes, you can tell the reprints because the "announcements" section on the last page is missing, and the cover colors are different. I don't have more details.
  
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  Stories on Nathan Knorr.

  by Holden Caufield in

  1. watchtower
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  what was nathan knorr like?.

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  I don't know if this is helpful or not. Stuff mom posted to the history blog:

  https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2018/11/more-on-knorr-family.html

  https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2018/11/nathan-knorrs-parents.html

  https://www.mcall.com/news/mc-xpm-1999-06-05-3248340-story.html

  https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2018/11/donal-ellsworth-knorr-and-estella-bloss.html

  -Annie
  
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  Chapter from mom's future book

  by vienne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some of you are interested in mom and bruce's history writing.

  mom has left us but much of what she contributed to can be read on the history blog.

  b has posted a chapter from volume three of separate identity, a work still in progress.. https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

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  vienne

  Hi everyone,

  Some of you are interested in Mom and Bruce's history writing. Mom has left us but much of what she contributed to can be read on the history blog. B has posted a chapter from volume three of Separate Identity, a work still in progress.

  https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/

  You might find this interesting.

  Annie, Rachael de Vienne's youngest daughter
  
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  Mom's History Writing

  by vienne in

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  my family and i want to thank everyone who made kind comments about mom.

  she would feel flattered.

  we miss her constantly.. you may be interested in the rough draft chapter posted on the project blog.

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  My family and I want to thank everyone who made kind comments about mom. She would feel flattered. We miss her constantly.

  You may be interested in the rough draft chapter posted on the project blog. It's entitled The Church in Maria's House. https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/

  If I'm going to continue to read what's posted here, I should get my own posting name. But for now, I'm using mom's postit name.

  Annie
  
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  My mom

  by vienne in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm annie, rachael's daughter.

  mom died yesterday.

  i can't find a way to delete her account here.

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  Mom prepared a note book for when the inevitable happened. One of the pages asks that her emails, professional and private, come down, that after a period her personal blog be deleted, and she gave a list of accounts to delete. I took down her twitter account today. I suppose some accounts will stay up, and that's fine. She left the history blog some weeks ago because of stress. She was blog editor for some years. All her posts there will stay up.
  

  This is hard, but it's keeping my busy. A private memorial will be on Friday. Her one still living uncle has agreed to speak.
  
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  My mom

  by vienne in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm annie, rachael's daughter.

  mom died yesterday.

  i can't find a way to delete her account here.

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  M. James Penton praised mom and B's first book. It's in the biblio of his last edition. Mom was very pleased. A French writer whose name I cannot remember did the same in something he wrote. Things like this always pleased mom.
  
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  My mom

  by vienne in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm annie, rachael's daughter.

  mom died yesterday.

  i can't find a way to delete her account here.

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  Mom has three full sisters and a half sister, grandpa, five daughters including me, dad, more cousins, nephews and nieces than are easy to count. We've been flooded by phone calls and emails some from relatives I've never met. On the other hand some fairly nasty comments are appearing on an Italian pro-Witness site. I find this disturbing.

  Mom did not actively oppose Witnesses, though that isn't her religion. We have Witness relatives who have been a big part of our life. Two of my uncles by marriage are Elders, and they aren't like that. It makes me sad and angry that people who never knew mom, never read what she wrote, never attended one of her lectures or classes, can turn nasty.
  
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  My mom

  by vienne in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm annie, rachael's daughter.

  mom died yesterday.

  i can't find a way to delete her account here.

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  vienne

  Mom was 41.