Yes. and my mom did that on a regular basis. they believed that because my grandmother and other relatives were witnesses they had some place in my mom's life. that extends to me and my relationship to my elder uncles. I'm not a witness, though I am largely sympathetic. I do not like controlling behaviors.
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Have you ever told and Elder or Pioneer, MS to piss off?
by Overrated ini had an elder that was very nosey in my business.
i was so to the point and told him to screw off.
have any you have any stories like this?.
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The Cross in Pompeii & Herculaneum in 79 AD
by Sea Breeze incan someone please tell the wt janitor to turn the lights off when the last jw leaves the watchtower after learning that early christians used the cross as a christian logo of sorts?
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vienne
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The Cross in Pompeii & Herculaneum in 79 AD
by Sea Breeze incan someone please tell the wt janitor to turn the lights off when the last jw leaves the watchtower after learning that early christians used the cross as a christian logo of sorts?
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vienne
Isn't that really the cross of Osiris? Is there a record of any Christian house having a shrine with a cup offering? that would not comport with the command to "flee from Idolatry."
I think this is wishful thinking.
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Emotional Blackmail
by Iamallcool ini have jw relatives that is trying to make me feel bad.
i think they hope it will help me return to the borg.
not!
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vienne
We all have the ability to say, "Stop that!"
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This Generation
by vienne inhe's always a pleasure to listen to.
tell me what you think:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db2l1oyju1s.
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vienne
He's always a pleasure to listen to. Tell me what you think:
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A Question For The Scholarly Re Gilgamesh
by jonahstourguide inhi all.. read this article re the gilgamesh clay tablet.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-21/us-returns-gilgamesh-tablet-to-iraq/100478858.
how does it impact the dating of the biblical flood?
it seems earlier.. i am going to do some research myself to make a comparison.. it's interesting as i have not previously heard of the tablet but have heard of the.
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vienne
This is way outside my field of study. But my thought, for what it's worth:
There is no way to successfully date the Biblical account and the various flood myths. All dating is based on speculation and on preference.
Could the 8 survivors noted in the Genesis story refill the earth? Given prolific reproduction [no birth control is a factor here], yes. Whether that could happen in the short time the Bible seems to allow, I do not know. That would take some mathematic calculations based on tones of guess work. But I think you could construct a model of population growth over time. Anyone truly ambitious?
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Are JW Masters of Deception?
by Iamallcool inwe do know that many of them are masters of deception!
can you give us some examples?
i notice that some worldly people think jw are very honest people but we know better than that!
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vienne
Under educated, maybe sometimes. Full of nonsense? Often. Not scripturally literate. But committed to their belief. Masters of deception? Not masters of anything. I think.
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Do JWs buy old JW books to destroy?
by mickbobcat ini have never heard of this but i doubt its never been done.
i sell some older jw books on etsy and have always been a bit afraid that some jws are buying them to destroy.
if you have heard of this let me know.
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vienne
I would love to have a scan of "God, Blood, and Society written by a Scottish doctor called Alfred Derek Farr" Anyone have it?
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2021-08-S-196--Using Enjoy Life Forever! in the Ministry!
by Atlantis in2021-08-s-196--using enjoy life forever!
in the ministry.
english and spanish.
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vienne
Thanks
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Is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the WT, charlatanism?
by Disillusioned JW inis most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the wt, charlatanism?.
https://www.fullmoon.nu/sources.bak/chapter%2010/part%202/gish%20exposed.html [which has an article called "creationism: bad science or immoral pseudoscience?
- (an expose of creationist dr. duane gish)"] says the following.. 'a look at the "scientific" creationist movement and a close examination of the tactics of a well-known and influential creationist will reveal that the creation "science" movement gains much of its strength through the use of distortion and scientifically unethical tactics.. .... with the facts explained and the lawsuits won, scientists declared victory and returned to their labs and offices.
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vienne
I've read Ronald Numbers' book on the subject, and I recommend it in this context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Creationists