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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Let's do the math - every year that works out to about 25 payments for sex. Then multiply that by four and Lloyd could possibly have done this 100 times or more.

  And at what cost? How much came out of his donation income? He's in Croatia. A website suggests that during tourist season average cost of a whore is 100 Euros. Let's assume that Lloyd was 'thrifty' and found someone for fifty dollars. At that discount rate he frittered away five thousand dollars. If you donated to his 'cause,' he spend your donation on what The Watchtower has called "a few moments of pleasure." You happy about that? Still donating? Why?
  
  
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  The Lloyd Evans Sex Scandal is our Business

  by annihilator in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w82evcjfybm.

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  This is an excellent analysis of Evan's video. Stop supporting him, guys. If you continue, you are supporting someone who is the face of the x-Witness community but who totally fits the watchtower picture of apostates. Is the Watchtower right in questioning the mental health of 'Apostates'?

  The question is, do you, as an x-Witness, wish to blindly fit into that picture? Apparently the 100,000 subscribers to his videos do.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I do not understand why people continue to support him. He attacked watchtower ethics, often over minor things, but he has no ethics let alone morals of his own. Last I look he still had over 100K subscribers. Are x-witnesses that insane? surely not.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  vienne

  Very upsetting. But haven't these rumors been around for a while? Didn't he confess to some things in his [poorly written, mind-numbingly boring] book? Why anyone expected his behavior to change is a puzzle to me. And I do not understand why anyone supports him financially.
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  Snakes walked on legs till the Eden curse Watchtower belief till 1974!!

  by Witness 007 in

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  watchtower 1964 page 352 "....before god cursed it the snake had legs that elevated it off the ground.

  god transformed its body so that it ceased to have legs and could move on its belly.".

  book "gods eternal purpose"1974 - "god did not put a curse on the whole serpent family...it had only been victimised by satan...".

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  vienne

  Believing something common among ultra conservative Christians does not seem to be a huge scandal. There's a Watchtower illustration from the 1950s of the serpent as a sort of lizard. Don't ask me which issue. I didn't note it. Not what I'm working on.
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  What is your IQ? Does it Matter?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  i had an aunt that had rheumatic fever as a child and only had an iq the high 70's.

  but, absolutely no one was able to bs her on an emotional level.

  she had an uncanny ability to see through people's bs.

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  I'm a Mensa member and have an IQ past 150. I also struggle with higher math. I can balance my checkbook. Which is good, I suppose. I hated Trig and Chemistry. Being intelligent as measured by an IQ does not prevent you from saying or doing or believing stupid things. Best I can tell, being a Mensa member means you probably understand 'insider' jokes faster than someone else.

  One of my mom's 'educational psychology' texts defines intelligence as the ability to make closer and closer connections; to associate ideas in more complex ways faster than others. I accept that. But if your best friend takes a week to grasp what you understood instantly, the difference between you is minimal, isn't it?

  Annie
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  Coercion at its worst: religious mandated shunning

  by Yomama in

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  by patrick haeck any comments on article?.

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  vienne

  They appealed this, I think. What was the result?
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  Ripped as Jahova

  by JahDorula in

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  send money.

  please.

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  vienne

  I have a £1000 note from Biafra. Will that do?
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  ... and three kings he will humiliate...Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine

  by scotoma in

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  why ukraine, georgia and moldova should choose the eu ...www.forbes.com/.../why-ukraine-georgia-and-moldova-should-ch...forbe.

  oct 13, 2014 - by vasil jaiani - despite the risk, ukraine, georgia and moldova are still ...russia has been fiercely opposing integration of the former soviet ...russia's punitive trade policy measures towards ukraine ...www.ceps.eu/.../russias-punitive-trade-policy-measures-towards-ukraine.... sep 25, 2014 - russia's punitive trade policy measures towards ukraine, moldova and georgia.if you don't have adobe reader, you can download it here.eu signs pacts with ukraine, georgia and moldova - bbc.comwww.bbc.com/.../world-europe-280526...british broadcasting corporation.

  jun 27, 2014 - ukraine, georgia and moldova have signed partnership agreements with theeuropean union, in a move strongly opposed by russia.

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  The original post came wrapped in a ribbon, but all it contains is stale fruitcake.
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  Not On Simon's Board--The Forbidden File!

  by Atlantis in

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  hi mike:.

  the file you have requested, is a file i will not provide a link for out here on simon's board.

  i will be happy to give you a link for that "forbidden" file in private.

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  vienne

  I would very much like the file, Atlantis