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  Barbara Anderson's important interview with Aussie activist Steven Unthank on Six Screens Mar. 2nd

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  vienne

  Mr. Fearon seems a bit 'off' to me. But I'll listen to Barbara any day.
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  How will history treat Judge Rutherford?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  mark jones writes:.

  how will history treat joseph rutherford?.

  like ben gorden has said, it would depend on who’s looking back.

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  vienne

  The transcripts from the Russell divorce and his suit against the Brooklyn Eagle show that Russell's books circulated at a loss. Rutherford's books? I do not know.
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  How will history treat Judge Rutherford?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. bible

  mark jones writes:.

  how will history treat joseph rutherford?.

  like ben gorden has said, it would depend on who’s looking back.

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  vienne

  I do not find enough solid proof that Rutherford was an alcoholic. I'm still looking. However, I see him as a true believer who saw himself a semi-inspired writer of Watch Tower articles, especially the prophetic drama type. People like that do not take criticism.

  Look how long it's taken the Watch Tower to abandon that nonsense. He cast a very long shadow, extended by Franz who held similar opinions of himself. It surprises me that Franz is a modern-day Watchtower saint when he was responsible for the 1975 fiasco. If an elder had done what Franz did, he's been disfellowshipped instantly.
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  Old Greek Daniel's Son of Man

  by peacefulpete in

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  2. bible

  again this is large topic, some of which has been discussed elsewhere on this site.

  the basic question i want to discuss is the identification of the 'someone like a son of man" in daniel 7. as we all know christians understood the figure to be the messiah (christ), so the question posed is did the author intend it to be a singular personage or a collective symbol of the holy of israel as jews typically read it?

  or how about the unexpected idea that the "someone like a son of man" was the very same character as the "ancient of days" in another role?.

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  Interesting. But J. Lust's conclusion seem to have little to no textual support. It is more wishful thinking than fact based.
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  Visited the Russell gravesite yesterday

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

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  wife and i visited the russell gravesite in allegheny (pittsburgh) pennsylvania yesterday.

  i’ll post photos if i can get them to upload on the hotel wifi..

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  vienne

  the names formerly on the pyramid: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2014/09/who-are-those-guys-part-1.html
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  Elder Ernest Fyans will serve 20 years in prison for SA

  by Tahoe in

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  https://youtu.be/zq6cnuulvsg?si=ie1rhvguvzjney30

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  so, he's unhappy with the sentence? I'm perfetly happy with it. Let him die in prison.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  I've said it before: He's on the stupid side.
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  The First Holocaust

  by nicolaou in

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  2. beliefs

  please, please ignore all the scientific impossibilities here, that's not what this topic is about.. let's make the assumption as many christians do that the bible is historically accurate.

  the noachian flood actually happened a little less than 4,500 years ago after which eight adults stepped off the ark to repopulate the planet.. that means that approximately 60 million lives had been snuffed out, a holocaust by anyone's estimation.

  as if that isn't horrific enough just think about the babies, toddlers and young children god killed.. he drowned all of them, every single one.

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  too many unfounded presumptions in the OP
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  The secret 10 year plan to save the watchtower .

  by gavindlt in

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  https://youtu.be/pszy22hzj8o.

  new light?.

  https://www.dadseekingtruth.com/.

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  vienne

  Utter nonsense from a Russian anti-sect idiot.
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  An innocent father's story of his fight to win his daughter against malicious liars!

  by gavindlt in

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  2. experiences

  my story of an innocent father where two entire communities of jehovah’s witnesses under the guidance of the warwick usa headquarters were supported by two bodies of elder’s in an endeavor to destroy me!

  i was part of the biggest investigation in the west midlands by the cid.

  interpol, brussels and the south africa government were involved.

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  vienne

  In a previous post on this same topic, you wrote:

  What ensued was the biggest case in the West midlands that included the CID, Interpol and 15 organizations with 50 nominated professionals. I was arrested twice, put in jail and interrogated. I was denied seeing my baby girl from birth for 666 days.
  I fought for 3 years and eventually in the highest Children's court in the land as a self-litigant I won!
  This after all my digital equipment with millions of records were sent to Brussels for forensic investigation as well as eventually all charges dropped by the CID due to CPS recommendations that absolutely no evidence could be corroborated from all parties who the CID and every respective authority established lied! No party could be pursued for perjury or subverting the course of justice unless both cases progressed to criminal court.

  Court cases generate records, many records. Either you can point us to them, or you're a "bloody liar."

  Thus far your response has been, "Oh pity me! You're abusing me!" But you provide no support for your claims. This is a "put up or shut up" moment. Also, I note from the previous post that a large number of others saw you as a troll. You'll get no sympathy by trolling. There are so many indicators that your posts are all or largely fabrications that you are impossible to believe. And No, I will not list them. I'm not here to educate a troll.