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  UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS

  by MacHislopp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  following the link given by kent,.

  i have several observation to make:.

  (from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).

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  NikL

  Msil,
  I could not agree more with your viewpoint. I say let the WT ramain and not kicked out. I can then point out that fact to as many people as I can.
  Best to all!
  Nick
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  Why are JWs scared of death?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been thinking a lot lately about death.

  this is not surprising considering the turn of events on the 11th.. i have been re-awakened to the transient nature of human life and how it can go in the blink of an eye.

  as the bible says life is vanity and a striving for the wind.. with all of the talk about world war 3 and how dangerous this world has become, i have been on a bit of an emotional roller coaster this past week.. the fear of dying is a normal and basic emotion.

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  NikL

  All of this talk of propiganda!
  I just made a post asking for thoughts on a phenomenon I have noticed. I have no "hidden agenda". I do not hate witnesses. My wife is a witness and I love her very much. I was a witness for a good many years myself so I have had time to observe how many witnesses react to death and the thought of dying. I wanted to know if others made the same observation and if they had any thoughts on the topic.I for one am at a loss as to why the fear should be though I am forming a clearer picture from all of the posts and have been given some fine food for thought.
  So if we can forget about the whole propiganda issue and get back to the topic at hand. I for one would be grateful. Thanks :-)
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  Why are JWs scared of death?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been thinking a lot lately about death.

  this is not surprising considering the turn of events on the 11th.. i have been re-awakened to the transient nature of human life and how it can go in the blink of an eye.

  as the bible says life is vanity and a striving for the wind.. with all of the talk about world war 3 and how dangerous this world has become, i have been on a bit of an emotional roller coaster this past week.. the fear of dying is a normal and basic emotion.

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  NikL

  I have been thinking a lot lately about death. This is not surprising considering the turn of events on the 11th.
  I have been re-awakened to the transient nature of human life and how it can go in the blink of an eye. As the bible says life is vanity and a striving for the wind.
  With all of the talk about world war 3 and how dangerous this world has become, I have been on a bit of an emotional roller coaster this past week.
  The fear of dying is a normal and basic emotion. I suppose that if we didn't have it we would have died out as a species long ago. That being said however, we all will die in time either from old age, illness or some other unforseen event.
  Most people accept this fact, but not so the witnesses. I mean they give lip service to the concept of the dying of all sinful flesh but there is a part of them that wants to live into the new system and never die at all. They seem to be more afraid of death then most other religous people I have met. Why are they so scared? They don't believe in hell or eternal damnation. They believe that in death you are in a deep dreamless sleep. What's so bad about that? Are they manipulated to feel this way from the teachings of the society?
  Has anyone else noticed this or am I mis-reading what I see? If you have noticed it, any thoughts as to why?
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  Missing & dead JWs

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  info from an e mail circulating among dubs from someone perporting to be at bethel.. it may have already been posted but just in case.... .

  confirmed that one sister died in the disaster; 13 witnesses unaccounted.

  for at last report.

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  NikL

  Info from an e mail circulating among dubs from someone perporting to be at Bethel.
  It may have already been posted but just in case...

  Confirmed that one sister died in the disaster; 13 Witnesses unaccounted
  for at last report. The GB called all traveling overseers in the NY and NJ
  in for a meeting this morning in the 107 KH, to consider how best to offer c
  omfort and aid to those affected, etc. Many of the brothers from the Service
  Dept. in Patterson were here too. The dining room at Towers was a real bee-
  hive. Some Bethelites have been able to give food & other assistance to
  some of the casualties. We responded to a call from the Fire Dept. for he
  lp with equipment for cutting steel, etc., needed in the rescue operation.
  NOTE: I just received word that one of our brothers was on one of the ai
  rplane bombs.
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  Enough Rhetoric, Time to Act

  by mikepence in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  let's use this thread to see who really is putting their money where their mouth is.. list here what actions you have taken, or are planning to take, to help those in need in new york and washington d.c. this could be in the form of money, blood, volunteering, etc.

  this is not about tooting one's own horn, it is about showing that the ex-jw community cares.

  also indicate in your message if you are ex-jw or current jw.. i will start:.

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  NikL

  In the spirit of the scripture about "not leting the right jhand know what the left is doing" I am not going to share that information with you or anyone.
  This is what makes me absolutely sick. Everyone being so pius and so holy now that we have had some whack jobs kill a bunch of people.
  There are advertisers saying come tto our place of byusiness and we will donate. There are airlines, Amtrack and others that seem to feel it is insensitive to continue anvertising travel. I got flack from a listener for playing a song on the radio called "Learning to fly" by Pink floyd. Sheesh
  I am going back to living my life as normal as possible and I would urge everyone here to do the same. To do anything else is to let the a holes that caused the death and destruction win.
  I wish you all well.
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  Meeting After Meeting?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to the meeting today with the wife.

  same boring talk and coma inducing wt study but.... after the meeting they called all of the attendants to the back room for a little private meeting.

  anyone have any idea what was going on?

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  NikL

  LOL
  Good one Joel!
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  Meeting After Meeting?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to the meeting today with the wife.

  same boring talk and coma inducing wt study but.... after the meeting they called all of the attendants to the back room for a little private meeting.

  anyone have any idea what was going on?

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  NikL

  Sorry Mox,
  Didn't mean to contribute to all the hysteria about the "special" meeting.
  I have not been to the meeting for a while and I never remembered the attendants getting asked to meet ofter the meeting on a Sunday, especially from the platform. Usually they do this sort of thing after the service meeting.
  It just seemed different than usual that's all.
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  Meeting After Meeting?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to the meeting today with the wife.

  same boring talk and coma inducing wt study but.... after the meeting they called all of the attendants to the back room for a little private meeting.

  anyone have any idea what was going on?

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  NikL

  I went to the meeting today with the wife. Same boring talk and coma inducing wt study BUT...
  After the meeting they called all of the attendants to the back room for a little private meeting. Anyone have any idea what was going on? Does this have to do with the special meeting coming up in October that we keep hearing about on this board?
  Enquireing minds want to know.
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  Telephone "witnessing"

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the following presentations have been making the rounds at the local hall and on dub e mail.

  i thought i might post them for your edification.. if you get a call and someone starts giving you one these spiels you can have some good answers ready perhaps.. anyway,.

  here goes.... telephone witnessing.

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  NikL

  The following presentations have been making the rounds at the local hall and on Dub e mail. I thought I might post them for your edification.
  If you get a call and someone starts giving you one these spiels you can have some good answers ready perhaps.
  Anyway,
  here goes...

  TELEPHONE WITNESSING
  
  Hello, my name is______________. I'm a volunteer Bible student and the reason I called you today is because I'm unable to come and see you personally. I'm interested in getting your view on whether a genuinely happy life is possible. What do you think? (Pause) The Bible tells us it is at Psalms 1:1, 2. (read) You can see the importance of studying the Bible so I would like to offer you a free home Bible study. There is no charge and it takes only 15 minutes a week for 16 weeks. I would be glad to bring the brochure we use to your home.
  
  Hello, my name is_______________. I know you don't know me. I'm making a special effort to contact people in your area to share a thought from the Bible. I would like to read the promise found at Rev. 21:4 (read) Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could see that time come? I have enjoyed reading this to you. If you have enjoyed it too, I would like to call again and discuss another scripture.
  
  
  ANSWERING MACHINE:
  
  My name is____________and I'm calling to share the Bible's hope for the future. The scripture I was going to share with you is in Psalms 37:11, 29. I hope you get a chance to read it and I'll call you at another time.
  
  I'm sorry that I did not find you at home. If you would like to hear a Bible-based discussion of (title of public talk), please come to the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses. The public is invited. No collections are ever taken. (Then state the day, time and location of the meeting.)
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  Hell VS Armaghedon. Whats the difference

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was a dub, one of the things we talked about was how wonderful it was to be free of terrible feelings of fear and guilt because of false religions teaching of hell.

  we would reason with householders about the pure ludicrousness of a god of love torturing his children.

  then we would turn around and say how important it was to be at the meetings so we wouldnt die at armageddon.

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  NikL

  When I was a Dub, one of the things we talked about was how wonderful it was to be free of terrible feelings of fear and guilt because of false religions teaching of hell. We would reason with householders about the pure ludicrousness of a god of love torturing his children.
  Then we would turn around and say how important it was to be at the meetings so we wouldn’t die at Armageddon.
  My son who is being raised as a JW by my still active wife is now telling me how concerned he is that I am going to miss out on life because I don’t go to meetings. He is only 8 and his heart is very heavy over the whole thing.
  It got me to thinking about how it is really not much different using the threat of a vengeful god to punish non JW’s then it is to tell kids they are going to go to hell if they misbehave.
  One thing the ole Judge had right, “religion IS a snare and a racket”.