Posts by NikL

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If the WT is a "money making machine"...who gets the money?

by NikL in

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friends

i've seen claims over the years that wt is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.. can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?.

the governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?.

i've been curious about this for a while.

NikL

Well scratchme1010...

I get the impression that it seems far fetch to you, that some people in the GB or their higher ups may be wealthy.

No not far fetched. Just that it's done in a way I have never seen before if they are.

What are your thoughts?

Don't really have any beyond the ones previously posted. Consider me on a voyage of discovery. I am accumulating information for my own edification.

what would be an alternative reason?

Like I said, I really don't know where I stand on this but, if they truly believe that the machine is from god and they worship that machine, then it stands to reason that they would give all and do all to support the machine.

@John Free

I want to go into the translation biz! Nice place!

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What is the vow of poverty

by Jafox in

i was told by someone that in 2007 two members of the branch committee in greece were removed because they breached the vow of poverty.

the matter was over a small amount, in the range of a few hundred euro.

is there a copy of this vow available and how would this be applied here?

NikL

From an old post here...

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/106721/bethel-vow-poverty-documents-scanned

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If the WT is a "money making machine"...who gets the money?

by NikL in

jw
friends

i've seen claims over the years that wt is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.. can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?.

the governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?.

i've been curious about this for a while.

NikL

Where is it proven that the GB live in "humble" conditions?

Good point Sparrow. I have heard it from various interviews I've heard from ex-JW ex-Bethelites. Of course I've never even been in New York much less in a GB members apt LOL

jean-luc picard

no car repairs, no health bills, no need to do the ironning,cooking,cleaning etc etc. travel 1st class anywhere in the world. never ever any money worries. never worry about replacing the washing machine,tv,fridge etc etc. never have to do the gardenning yourself. never need to clean your own room. never ever have the hum drum worries that normal folk have. live in a beautiful park.......

I get that too. But it certainly isn't typical of people at the top of a major corporation to choose such a "humble"
way of life.

At this point I don't believe they are doing it for the money. I really think they are misguided as much as the rank and file member.

Of course a little more research into Orphan Crows research may change that opinion. Hey I am open to new ideas :-)

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If the WT is a "money making machine"...who gets the money?

by NikL in

jw
friends

i've seen claims over the years that wt is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.. can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?.

the governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?.

i've been curious about this for a while.

NikL

I'll check it out crow thanks...any others?

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Real Estate Business?

by no-zombie in

i was going over some of the older posts of others and without starting some kind of flame war, i got no idea why people are saying that the society is some kind of real estate business.

of course its making millions of dollars in its real estate sales but this a one time event.

its down sizing by selling the furniture.

NikL

I just started a similar post no-zombie!

Must have been on our collective minds LOL

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If the WT is a "money making machine"...who gets the money?

by NikL in

jw
friends

i've seen claims over the years that wt is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.. can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?.

the governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?.

i've been curious about this for a while.

NikL

I've seen claims over the years that WT is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.

Can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?

The governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?

I've been curious about this for a while. I believe that, yes the business does make lots of money, but profit is not the real goal as that would imply some "one" or "ones" would personally gain materially.

Any thoughts?

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Questions Surround Jehovah's Witness HQ and Allegations of Sex Abuse - REPORT FROM WNYC

by NikL in

apologies if this has been posted before.... http://www.wnyc.org/story/watchtower-jehovahs-witness-headquarters-brooklyn/.

NikL

Apologies if this has been posted before...

http://www.wnyc.org/story/watchtower-jehovahs-witness-headquarters-brooklyn/

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Scientology series, Leah Remini

by nonjwspouse in

i did a quick search on this topic here and didn't come up with anything.

if anyone has the chance to watch this a&e documentary series on scientology hosted by leah remini it is very very good.

the parallels are just to obvious to ignore!

NikL

Hi nonjwspouse...

I started a thread a few days ago on this...

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5127414680125440/anyone-else-watching-leah-remini-series-leah-remini-scientology-aftermath-on-e

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Why do JW's never pray for the Spirit of Jesus?

by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

i am new on this forum.

i have been associating with the jw's for three years, and was about to be baptised soon (next month).

however, i discovered on time that it is not right to do.

NikL

I looked up Romans 8:9 in the NWT and it reads...

9 However, you are in harmony, not with the flesh, but with the spirit,+ if God’s spirit truly dwells in you. But if anyone does not have Christ’s spirit, this person does not belong to him. 10 But if Christ is in union with you,+ the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 If, now, the spirit of him who raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in you, the one who raised up Christ Jesus from the dead+ will also make your mortal bodies alive+ through his spirit that resides in you.

So here is another example of how Jesus seems to be the same as god...even in their own bible.

I am not saying I believe that to be the case, just that I find it interesting.

BTW congrats on dodging a bullet.

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Serena Williams engaged to Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian

by ttdtt in

wonder if tony or splaine will be invited to the wedding :).

i am sure it will be at her kingdom hall to praise her great dod jehober.. http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/29/entertainment/serena-williams-engaged-alexis-ohanian/index.html.

NikL

Be interesting if that comes to pass Ruba Dub.

My understanding it that you have to be in good standing and baptized to use the hall.

Of course, money talks :-)