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Another manipulation of scripture in Baptism talk at the 2017 RC

by NikL in

i've been looking over the talk outlines for the 201t convention and i came across this in the baptism talk.

go on the offensive against paralyzing fear (7 min.

)[read 1 peter 3:6, and focus on the expression “continue doing goodand do not give in to fear”].

Another manipulation of scripture in Baptism talk at the 2017 RC

by NikL in

i've been looking over the talk outlines for the 201t convention and i came across this in the baptism talk.

go on the offensive against paralyzing fear (7 min.

)[read 1 peter 3:6, and focus on the expression “continue doing goodand do not give in to fear”].

NikL

I've been looking over the talk outlines for the 201t convention and I came across this in the baptism talk

GO ON THE OFFENSIVE AGAINST PARALYZING FEAR (7 min.)
[Read 1 Peter 3:6, and focus on the expression “continue doing good
and do not give in to fear”]

To me a blaring example of using part of a scripture to make it seem like it's saying something it's not.

If you look at it in the bible this is part of the admonition Paul was giving wives and has nothing to do with anything in this talk.

5 For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves. They submitted themselves to their own husbands, 6 like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her lord. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear. (NIV)

I know it's not anything new that they do this.

Just thought I'd throw it out there.

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2017 Conventions

by Maryo in

in view of the terrorist attacks going on in the world right now, as well as the high degree of animosity towards jehovah's witnesses as a result of their shuning practices, etc., i think it would be wise for the wts to discontinue meeting for large conventions and use live streaming and broadcasts instead.

even with the increased security measures being put in place this year, it would not be surprising if some incidents take place.

has anyone heard any talk in this regard?.

NikL

Oh how I WISH that would happen.

They wouldn't make a buttload of money so I guess that's off the table.

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Interesting article on identifying a cult

by NikL in

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http://lifehacker.com/how-to-identify-a-dangerous-cult-and-resist-the-urge-t-1795342855.

NikL

http://lifehacker.com/how-to-identify-a-dangerous-cult-and-resist-the-urge-t-1795342855

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Is God Everywhere, Omnipresent? ACCORDING TO JW.ORG...NO

by NikL in

this is new to me.. i was always taught things like "god is everywhere".. now the folks in warwick are tearing that into shreds with their spiritual enlightenment.. https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/god-omnipresent/.

god is able to see everything and to act anywhere he chooses.

(proverbs 15:3; hebrews 4:13) however, the bible does not teach that god is omnipresent—that is, present everywhere, in all things.

NikL

As has been brought out, this is the JWs long standing view of God.

I just NEVER got the memo I guess.

Weird how something like that can slip through the mental cracks.

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Is God Everywhere, Omnipresent? ACCORDING TO JW.ORG...NO

by NikL in

this is new to me.. i was always taught things like "god is everywhere".. now the folks in warwick are tearing that into shreds with their spiritual enlightenment.. https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/god-omnipresent/.

god is able to see everything and to act anywhere he chooses.

(proverbs 15:3; hebrews 4:13) however, the bible does not teach that god is omnipresent—that is, present everywhere, in all things.

NikL

This is new to me.

I was always taught things like "God is everywhere".

Now the folks in Warwick are tearing that into shreds with their spiritual enlightenment.

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/god-omnipresent/

God is able to see everything and to act anywhere he chooses. (Proverbs 15:3; Hebrews 4:13) However, the Bible does not teach that God is omnipresent—that is, present everywhere, in all things. Instead, it shows that he is a person and that he resides in a dwelling place.
God’s form: God is a spirit person. (John 4:24) He is invisible to humans. (John 1:18) Visions of God recorded in the Bible consistently portray him as having a distinct location. He is never depicted as existing everywhere.—Isaiah 6:1, 2; Revelation 4:2, 3, 8.

God’s dwelling place: God resides in the spirit realm, which is distinct from physical creation. Within that realm, God has a “dwelling place in the heavens.” (1 Kings 8:30) The Bible mentions an occasion when spirit creatures “entered to take their station before Jehovah,”* showing that in a sense, God resides at a specific location.—Job 1:6.

What a bunch of nonsense.

He can see everything and act anywhere but is not Omnipresent?

To me that kind of fits the definition.

Why would they feel the need to teach something so...I don't know, laughable?

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Keep on being hardline Watchtower, you utter weltbags

by jambon1 in

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wow.

their 2017 convention programme at times eclipses the horrific shambles of 2016. how hardline can they be?.

its my opinion that the harder they push, the more people they will lose.

NikL

I think you might be on the right track desirous.

They are culling out the free thinkers from the herd.

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The convention releases are up on JW.org

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assuming anyone cares :-).

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-convention-releases/.

they are releasing another bible story book targeted at kids.. sheesh!

NikL

Assuming anyone cares :-)

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-convention-releases/

They are releasing ANOTHER bible story book targeted at kids.

Sheesh! How many do they need?

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Russell's aleged freemasonry on JWfacts.com

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paul has written an interesting piece on jwfacts.com .

https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/russell-not-a-freemason.php.

anyway, it jogged my memory and reminded me of something i thought i would pass on to you.back in the late 80s i had the opportunity to chat with ray franz on the phone and i asked him about this very thing.he didn't say yes or no to russel's masonic connection but what he said was something like, "he is buried in the masonic section of the cemetery so draw your own conclusion.

NikL

Paul has written an interesting piece on jwfacts.com

https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/russell-not-a-freemason.php

Anyway, It jogged my memory and reminded me of something I thought I would pass on to you.
Back in the late 80s I had the opportunity to chat with Ray Franz on the phone and I asked him about this very thing.
He didn't say yes or no to Russel's Masonic connection but what he said was something like, "he is buried in the Masonic section of the cemetery so draw your own conclusion."
I assumed that the answer was yes since only those with a Masonic connection can be buried in the Masonic section of the cemetery. My grandparents are interned in such a segregated spot since he was a 32nd degree Mason.
Anyway, I just though I'd pass that on for what it's worth.

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Major changes to convention security beginning in 2017

by Edison Trent in

short info on interesting changes to the major conventions this year: there will be a new security concept that will be implemented at all regional conventions in 2017.. similar to other major events (e.g.

festivals, concerts), there will be admittance controls in stadiums.. - at each entrance, there will be a massive presence of attendants that look at each visitor.. - there will be pocket checks at the entrance.. - suspicious persons are no longer left on the convention grounds.. - suppliers to the stadium will be intensively inspected by attendants.. - there will be a special sign for attendants that must enter the stadium before 7.30 am.

all others (even all attendants) can only enter after 7.30 am..

NikL

The more I think of this the more I disbelieve it.

They just had a part about the convention and delegates were told to bring their lunch and to keep your coolers out of isles and out of the way etc.

Can you imagine searching all those coolers?

Be cool though cuz it would be my get out of jail free card and I wouldn't have to go.