I know there has been lots of discussion on this issue in the past year but I have been unable to find it. I need to know where to find the questions from readers that talked about it being okay for people to vote if their concience allows. I brought this issue up with a couple of people, one a rank and file dub and the other an elder. The publisher said he "sort of remembered it" but he thought it was a smoke screen for those lands where the work would be banned if they didn't make such a statement. The elder said he remembered "something about it but not the details and would have to get back to me". I find it interesting that in both cases something so strikingly different than previous statements in the WT would not have made more of an impact. Maybe the both of them are a little remiss in reading the "food at the proper time". Anyway, I need to see it again to refresh mu own memory, so if anyone could post where it can be found and better yet the exact text i woud be ever so gratefull.
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35JWs and voting. Is it okay now?
by NikL ini know there has been lots of discussion on this issue in the past year but i have been unable to find it.
i need to know where to find the questions from readers that talked about it being okay for people to vote if their concience allows.
i brought this issue up with a couple of people, one a rank and file dub and the other an elder.
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Rats and Rap Music
by NikL ini just thought i would share this little gem that showed up in my e mail box.
it seems to be making the rounds of dubdom at the moment.. rats and rap music.
it took them 10 minutes to go through the maze, just as .
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NikL
I just thought I would share this little gem that showed up in my e mail box. It seems to be making the rounds of Dubdom at the moment.
Rats and Rap Music
A traveling overseer was visiting a congregation recently, and had this interesting experience to
relate about 'RATS & RAP MUSIC'.
The brother said, "Yes, I've heard people say with regards to Rap Music. . "Oh!, I don't listen to the
words, I just like the beat. I don't know any of the words, . I just like the rhythm of the music."" He
then asked the audience, " Are you one of those people?"
Then he continued, "Let me tell you about a an experience I just heard. There was this young guy
who did an experiment with rats. He had a group of rats, and he taught each rat to go through this
maze he had set up. After a while he would time them, to see how long it would take the rats to get
through the maze. One the average, he found that it took this group of rats about 10 minutes to get
through the maze.
Then he divided the rats up into 3 groups.
The first group was kind of a controlled group, so he did absolutely nothing to change their
routine for two weeks.
With the 2nd group of rats he put a speaker on top of their cage, and for 10 hours a day he
exposed them to classical music. He did this for two weeks.
However, with the 3rd group of rats he put a speaker on top of their cage, and exposed them to
hardcore Rap music for 10 hours a day for two weeks.
After the two week period, he took the first group of rats and had them go through the maze
routine just as he had taught them to do. It took them 10 minutes to go through the maze, just as
they had always done.
The 2nd group of rats that were exposed to the classical music went through the same maze,
and he found that it took them only 8 minutes to do it, . . .. so it had shaved 2 minutes off the time it
had originally taken that group.
Then he took the 3rd group of rats that had been exposed to Rap music, and had them go
through the same maze routine. The brother asked the audience, "Do you know how long it took
that 3rd group of rats to traverse the maze?"
The congregation was very quiet. The brother astonished them when he said, "Would you believe it
took that 3rd group of rats 20 minutes? The exact same maze they were originally able to get
through in 10 minutes now took them twice as long.
Do you see how the Rap music slowed them down mentally, . . . and the rats didn't know what the
words were either." Interestingly, he then continued on, and said that the young man couldn't
continue the experiment any further, and he asked, "Do you know why?" The audience was quiet
again, and the brother explained, "The rats that had been exposed to the Rap music for 10 hours a
day for two weeks started to kill each other!"
Then the brother.concluded with the thought provoking question, "Do you really think that such
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Brother Kavelin injured in Santa Monica?
by NikL inwe just received this e mail.
it may or may not be true but it is making the rounds in dubdom.. here ya go.... just a quick note to let you know that out of the 9 dead and some .
injured in the run away car incident at the farmer's market in santa.
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NikL
We just received this e mail. It may or may not be true but it is making the rounds in dubdom.
Here ya go...
Just a quick note to let you know that out of the 9 dead and some
injured in the run away car incident at the Farmer's Market in Santa
Monica (we visit that), one brother got struck. Brother Kavelin, a
friend of ours who wrote the song "Make The Truth Your Own", got struck
and has both his legs badly broken. It looks like he is going to survive
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Oh my God!! 8 people killed in Santa Monica farmers market
by Dogpatch inoccasionally i go with friends to visit the santa monica farmer's market, and it is a good area to hang out in the summer in the evening.
some 80 year old man just plowed through the crowd in a car for 2.5 blocks and ran over 8 people, injuring about 30+ others.
a two-year old baby was killed.
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NikL
I am going to post this seperately but thought I would pass it on here too.
We received this e mail...maybe a hoax about this event.
Here it is...
Just a quick note to let you know that out of the 9 dead and some
injured in the run away car incident at the Farmer's Market in Santa
Monica (we visit that), one brother got struck. Brother Kavelin, a
friend of ours who wrote the song "Make The Truth Your Own", got struck
and has both his legs badly broken. It looks like he is going to survive
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Fw: As Bro Sydlick was saying the closing prayer
by NikL ini just had to pass this on to you.. it is an e mail that is making the rounds.. what do you think of this.... (beware!
gagging may be expected).
the 41,000 friends at the international convention in michigan .
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NikL
Intersting to see everyones input on this letter.
Someone a few posts back suggested that this event never happened at all and I as well suspect that this could well be the case.
I for one don't believe much that is forwarded in e mails. I just started this thread for entertainment value.
Maybe it happened and maybe it didn't but it is fascinating to me to see how these stories and urban legends start.
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Fw: As Bro Sydlick was saying the closing prayer
by NikL ini just had to pass this on to you.. it is an e mail that is making the rounds.. what do you think of this.... (beware!
gagging may be expected).
the 41,000 friends at the international convention in michigan .
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NikL
I Just had to pass this on to you.
It is an e mail that is making the rounds.
What do you think of this...
(BEWARE! GAGGING MAY BE EXPECTED)
The 41,000 friends at the International Convention in Michigan
were blessed with Bro. Barr and Bro. Daniel Sydlick.As Bro Sydlick was saying the closing prayer, he started crying so
much he could not continue. A brother came out and put his arm around him
until he got composed.His prayer was thanking Jehovah for the other sheep
class.What a loving , humble man. There was not a dry eye in the place.
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WARNNG!! GRAPHIC!! Men....PLEASE Don't Wear This in Public!! (or private)
by teenyuck in.
i got this in an e-mail.
i have no idea who it is.
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NikL
Hey!!!!
How did my vacation pictures get posted here?!!!!!
Whats with all the smart ass remarks? I had 2 hot chicks with me who didn't mind so...
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Beware of a strangers voice?
by NikL ini got a chance to see the program for the curent district conventions and "beware of a strangers voice" was the title of one of the parts.
it seems a little unusual for a title of a talk.. also, i saw there was a talk about not falling into alcohols trap or something like that.
i am curious to know if there was anything different about these conventions.
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NikL
I got a chance to see the program for the curent district conventions and "beware of a Strangers voice" was the title of one of the parts. Anyone already been and know what this is all about? It seems a little unusual for a title of a talk.
Also, I saw there was a talk about not falling into alcohols trap or something like that. I am curious to know if there was anything different about these conventions.
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N.G.O.s Mentioned in special talk today.
by NikL ini had the privilage...make that misfortune to escort my better half to the kingdumb hall today for what they consider a special talk.
i guess what makes it so special is that it is the same outline used in all congregations around the globe.. it was called, "has christendoms time for jugement arrived" , or something along those lines.
it was pretty much the old hard line approach ," we have the truth no other religions do and if you are visiting from some other church today you had better get your ass in gear and become a jay dub or else you are gonna bite the big one when god finally has enough of this crap".. anyway, the speaker mentioned an article about united nations n.g.o.s.
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NikL
Hey undisfellowshipped, I forgot all about the "Target Zone". I almost choked when he said that! "Christendom is in the target zone and so are you if you have not joined gods people". Was the term target zone in the outline I wonder or was it something that the brother giving the talk came up with? If the latter is the case how ironic that it should happen.
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N.G.O.s Mentioned in special talk today.
by NikL ini had the privilage...make that misfortune to escort my better half to the kingdumb hall today for what they consider a special talk.
i guess what makes it so special is that it is the same outline used in all congregations around the globe.. it was called, "has christendoms time for jugement arrived" , or something along those lines.
it was pretty much the old hard line approach ," we have the truth no other religions do and if you are visiting from some other church today you had better get your ass in gear and become a jay dub or else you are gonna bite the big one when god finally has enough of this crap".. anyway, the speaker mentioned an article about united nations n.g.o.s.
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NikL
I had the privilage...make that misfortune to escort my better half to the Kingdumb Hall today for what they consider a special talk. I guess what makes it so special is that it is the same outline used in all congregations around the globe.
It was called, "has christendoms time for jugement arrived" , or something along those lines.
It was pretty much the old hard line approach ," we have the truth no other religions do and if you are visiting from some other church today you had better get your ass in gear and become a Jay Dub or else you are gonna bite the big one when god finally has enough of this crap".
Anyway, The speaker mentioned an article about United Nations N.G.O.s.
I just looked for anything that mentions them in the WT lib CD rom and I can't find anything except a brief mention of how the Vatican should be considered an N.G.O. in the October 22, 2000 Awake.
This guy made this comment in passing from one point to another and I didn't really get the gist of what he was saying. My mind may have been wandering a little bit at this point.
I was wondering, does anyone else remember any article mentioning N.G.O.s in a degrading fashion in any magazine from a, "few years back", as he put it?
I was wondering if he was trying to make some point to those of us in the audience that know about the cover up. The rank and file Jay Dub doesn't know what an N.G.O. is. I didnt until I heard about them here.
Any thoughts?