Posts by NikL

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assembly day

by loneranger in

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one day assembly..jan 1 2017 in central florida....1870 in attendance...13 baptiized (0.6%)...

NikL

So what great spiritual food did you come away with?

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Jesus ransom or the sanctification of God's name the most important?

by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

some time ago, during the mid-week meeting, the sanctification of god’s name was being discussed (chapter 4 in ‘god’s kingdom rules’).

in paragraph nine we read that in the early period the jw’s viewed jesus ransom sacrifice as the most important teaching of the bible.

then they said they gave overbalanced importance to jesus, and nowadays, they say the sanctification of god’s name is the most important thing in the bible.. .

NikL

I was at that meeting and those very paragraphs bothered the hell out of me.

I even started a thread about it at the time...

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6306115337846784/jws-kinda-admit-being-christian

The publications and talks are stressing reading the bible more of late which is interesting. The more I read the bible, the more I find that doesn't jibe with WT doctrine.

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If the WT is a "money making machine"...who gets the money?

by NikL in

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i've seen claims over the years that wt is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.. can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?.

the governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?.

i've been curious about this for a while.

NikL

Well scratchme1010...

I get the impression that it seems far fetch to you, that some people in the GB or their higher ups may be wealthy.

No not far fetched. Just that it's done in a way I have never seen before if they are.

What are your thoughts?

Don't really have any beyond the ones previously posted. Consider me on a voyage of discovery. I am accumulating information for my own edification.

what would be an alternative reason?

Like I said, I really don't know where I stand on this but, if they truly believe that the machine is from god and they worship that machine, then it stands to reason that they would give all and do all to support the machine.

@John Free

I want to go into the translation biz! Nice place!

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What is the vow of poverty

by Jafox in

i was told by someone that in 2007 two members of the branch committee in greece were removed because they breached the vow of poverty.

the matter was over a small amount, in the range of a few hundred euro.

is there a copy of this vow available and how would this be applied here?

NikL

From an old post here...

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/106721/bethel-vow-poverty-documents-scanned

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If the WT is a "money making machine"...who gets the money?

by NikL in

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friends

i've seen claims over the years that wt is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.. can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?.

the governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?.

i've been curious about this for a while.

NikL

Where is it proven that the GB live in "humble" conditions?

Good point Sparrow. I have heard it from various interviews I've heard from ex-JW ex-Bethelites. Of course I've never even been in New York much less in a GB members apt LOL

jean-luc picard

no car repairs, no health bills, no need to do the ironning,cooking,cleaning etc etc. travel 1st class anywhere in the world. never ever any money worries. never worry about replacing the washing machine,tv,fridge etc etc. never have to do the gardenning yourself. never need to clean your own room. never ever have the hum drum worries that normal folk have. live in a beautiful park.......

I get that too. But it certainly isn't typical of people at the top of a major corporation to choose such a "humble"
way of life.

At this point I don't believe they are doing it for the money. I really think they are misguided as much as the rank and file member.

Of course a little more research into Orphan Crows research may change that opinion. Hey I am open to new ideas :-)

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If the WT is a "money making machine"...who gets the money?

by NikL in

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friends

i've seen claims over the years that wt is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.. can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?.

the governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?.

i've been curious about this for a while.

NikL

I'll check it out crow thanks...any others?

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Real Estate Business?

by no-zombie in

i was going over some of the older posts of others and without starting some kind of flame war, i got no idea why people are saying that the society is some kind of real estate business.

of course its making millions of dollars in its real estate sales but this a one time event.

its down sizing by selling the furniture.

NikL

I just started a similar post no-zombie!

Must have been on our collective minds LOL

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If the WT is a "money making machine"...who gets the money?

by NikL in

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friends

i've seen claims over the years that wt is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.. can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?.

the governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?.

i've been curious about this for a while.

NikL

I've seen claims over the years that WT is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.

Can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?

The governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?

I've been curious about this for a while. I believe that, yes the business does make lots of money, but profit is not the real goal as that would imply some "one" or "ones" would personally gain materially.

Any thoughts?

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