Posts by notjustyet

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Rumor: April 3, 2015 start of Great Tribulation?

by Londo111 in

on another forum, somebody mentioned that there is a growing belief with those high up in watchtower hierarchy that the great tribulation will begin april 3, 2015. evidently, one has to check the skycharts for that date and compare with 33 ceand also compare with the history of jws for past 40, 80, 120 years.

dont ask me to verify the rumor...these things come and go.

im sure lots of people in hq believe all sorts of things.. .

notjustyet

Londo,..

You typed,..

1914 + 90 = 1994

________

You might have meant,.

1914 + 90 = 2004

lol

NJY

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Who has had their District Convention seats stolen by other Witnesses?

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

over the years i have had to deal with this problem personally and as a attendant covering my section at various convention centers.

i had people who were suppose to be decent jehovah witnesses pick up all the books, bags and coolers belonging to brothers and sisters who arrived at the appropriate time and picked them up and dumped them all at the end of the seating row.

so here is what goes down, the sister runs up to me panicking and saying "dear brother, i had all those seats reserved for my family and now look!

notjustyet

@Notjustyet" I wish there were more people like you in my Kingdom Hall, maybe I would not have left the Organization if people really cared about their brother like you and many others here on JWN. The common denominator we all experienced was a lack of love and kindness from our suppose friends and loving "wind brotherhood".

Wait,.. be glad there are not more people like me, when it comes to that anyway, as those people acting that way helped you get out of that mind controlling cult. These things were a wake up call as it were.

NJY

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Putting the Universe in Persepective

by startingover in

jw
friends

this is amazing, it may take a little time to load, make sure you see the whole thing.. http://cavemancircus.com/2013/06/27/putting-the-universe-in-perspective/.

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notjustyet

This is REAL neat also. It's an interactive scale of the universe.

http://scaleofuniverse.com

NJY

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Who has had their District Convention seats stolen by other Witnesses?

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

over the years i have had to deal with this problem personally and as a attendant covering my section at various convention centers.

i had people who were suppose to be decent jehovah witnesses pick up all the books, bags and coolers belonging to brothers and sisters who arrived at the appropriate time and picked them up and dumped them all at the end of the seating row.

so here is what goes down, the sister runs up to me panicking and saying "dear brother, i had all those seats reserved for my family and now look!

notjustyet

I had posted this in the past and thought it was a good fit here also.

Seeing a 10 year old JW boy that was bound for life in a wheelchair (think Stephen Hawkings like) being moved by his father to a upper tier level area MARKED HANDICAPPED AREA blue painted marked off area ADA compliant area so he could get a better view of the DRAMA at the DC. He was laying down somewhat and could not see the stage and actors from the vantage point that the WTBTS wanted him to be which is at the back of the auditorium ground level.
The father was getting him situated when an attendant approached him and told him that they were not allowed to be in that area. I could see what was going on and thought that if I got involved and explained to the attendant that there is an Americans with Disabilities Act that would apply in this case that would allow him to be in that spot since it was marked out with blue paint etc.
The attendant was cordial but insisted that he would not be allowed to stay in that spot. The father who was packing up his son and moving him back down to the floor level said that it would be all right and not to worry about it.
I was LIVID!!! I could not cool down about this, I was bouncing off the walls and although I did not make a break for the door at that point, it was, and is a major piece of straw that tipped the scales, as it were, in my favor that Sunday afternoon at the DC, how ironic.
I would like to have thought that if it were me, I would have let the child who has very few things to look forward to, stay in that spot and if the boss over the attendants said anything I would have asked him "how would you like to be in the same situation as this child" and see if he got the innuendo.

Notjustyet here, AKA Scummydross over at JehovahsWitnessRecovery.com

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Gorby's wife hospitalized, received surgery

by Gorbatchov in

this week my wife was hospitalized and received surgery.

we are happy she is allright now.

thank god!.

notjustyet

Just made my day to see another JW being able to take back their thinking for themselves.

Glad to hear that she is doing alright,..

NJY

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DC Drama stirs up drama of it's own!!!

by DATA-DOG in

remember the drama about persecution,suffering, that a modern-day job experiences?

the jw's under ban in a " landmark ruling", our faithful brother conversing with job in the new world, it' all too wonderful!

especially job wearing pants and a tunic style shirt!

notjustyet

I have looked for this on youtube and could not find it.

Anyone know where it is located?

NJY

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The Governing Body Rewrites the Organizations FUTURE History

by Cameron_Don in

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friends

its bad enough when the governing body rewrites the organizations past history.

but last october they also began rewriting the organizations future history relative to the appointment over all of jesus belongings mentioned in matthew 24:47.. for many decades they had insisted that jesus made that appointment back in 1919 because the society had been so faithful and discreet about what they had been teaching down till 1919. .

but as shown in captives of a concept they had not been either faithful or discreet about what they had been providing in the way of spiritual food down till 1919. therefore under that scenario there was no possible way the society could have passed a food-at-the-proper-time examination at that time.

notjustyet

I wish there was a way to create some type of interactive time line that would show the doctrinal history of the JWs WTBTS throught out the years where you could mouse over the year and see what they believed. Or possible see brackets spanning the time that they believed "x" doctrinally.

I've seen some interactive time lines that show how earth came to be and also how life progressed through out that time. I think that seeing a span of time visually and what the belief was during that time span might make it a bit easier to grasp.

I do not how ever have the ability to pull this off as I know nothing about creating something like this I just know that it makes it easier to get a grip on it for myself, possibly others.

NJY

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The unholy trinity of judicial committees

by Blttex in

if judicial committees have jehovahs direction and holy spirit why must they be made up of three members?

is the holy spirit not capable of communicating its wishes to just one person alone?

or is it perhaps to give the appearance of fairness and justice.

notjustyet

This was one of the things that helped open my eyes. Talked to a near relative, (elder) and asked why would there be times when the 3 elders in a Judicail Meeting not agree with each other as to the decision to me metted out to the person being counseled.

He said that if 2 of the 3 elders voted to DF a person and the other elder was a hold out for private reproof and no one wanted to budge either way then the 1 elder should make his point and then recant and decide to go with the 2 elders decision.

I asked how this could happen if Holy Spirit were involved in this decision making process, why would it not be unanimous EVERY time? Did not have a good answer and later told other family members that " He is saying apostate things" Just because I asked questions that he did not have a good answer for he says it was "apostate"

I also laid out a scenario where a Baptized brother smoked a cigarette and decided that it was wrong and went to the brothers and he recieved private reproof. Same scenario but in addition, some other Jws see him smoking, and spread the info through out the congregation. The brother went to the elders and did not know that anyone else had seen him smoking, but since it was known to the congregation, he was DFd. I asked the Elder relative why would the discipline change from one scenario to another due to who knew about it as it should be solely on the case of the person who smoked, not any other factors as it looked like the disciple metted out was based on who knew what.

These were just a coupla things that allowed me to start seeing the fact that their is no way that it is anything more than men running thngs.

NJY

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Why do some of the YouTube video creators remind current Jws that they should not be,..

by notjustyet in

....watching their videos?.

i am a subscriber to quite a few of the ex jw youtube channels and i enjoy many of the videos.

i do cringe a bit when i hear the person in the video remind the jw that they "should not be watching these videos as it is against the rules and council of the wtbts, gb, elders taking the lead, etc,..".

notjustyet

But in this case, they are already watching it, they have made it past that point.

The GB has been telling them not to touch it for decades and now they have got the courage to watch one and Bamm, they get reminded that they are doing something that they will die for doing.

I think it might be more of a "us against them" scenario where the ex kinda does not like the current Jw and they can bust their balls for doing this. But I think they fail to remembers that they actually want them to watch the video, not to leave.

I think that they forget the real objective, that being to share info with the lurkers to help them leave the WTBTS, and have a " gotcha now be atch" moment and include that in the recording.

For any that have made videos and have includede a statement like mentioned above, please share your reason for doing so , IF your objective is for the viewer to watch this video and more in the future.

NJY

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Why do some of the YouTube video creators remind current Jws that they should not be,..

by notjustyet in

....watching their videos?.

i am a subscriber to quite a few of the ex jw youtube channels and i enjoy many of the videos.

i do cringe a bit when i hear the person in the video remind the jw that they "should not be watching these videos as it is against the rules and council of the wtbts, gb, elders taking the lead, etc,..".

notjustyet

....watching their videos?

I am a subscriber to quite a few of the ex jw YouTube channels and I enjoy many of the videos. I do cringe a bit when I hear the person in the video remind the JW that they "Should not be watching these videos as it is against the rules and council of the WTBTS, GB, elders taking the lead, etc,.."

I'm probably making an assumption that the videos are to allow the current Jws to wake up and see that the teachings of the WTBTS is not endorsed by a god, any god. So why would you scare them away from being able to see your fine work and explanations?

I imagine some Jws that are in the teetering point of being able to take a peek at some "APOSTATE" material and happen to stumble on one of these videos that right up front scare them back into the arms of caring mother.

Believe me, there is not a Jw in the WORLD that does not know that they are not supposed to be watching videos that are critical of the WTBTS as it is drilled into the brains of the JWS constantly. The last thing they need at that point is an in video reminder that they are making Jehovah sad and Satan happy by continuing to watch. I believe in neither Jehovah or Satan but you get what I'm coming from. They believe in them and that is your audience that you usually want to continue viewing your entire video.

Am I missing something here?

NJY