The WTBTS has been spouting "poison" for over a SINtury.
NJY
revelation 11:18 that "god will destroy those who.
destroy the earth.
do you believe that polluters will literally be destroyed ?.
The WTBTS has been spouting "poison" for over a SINtury.
NJY
just put my 6 yr old to bed and we always have a chat about the day.
she tells me that she knows about another thing that happens to our bodies when we die in addition to buriel and cremation.. .
she tells me that they can do something really nasty to the body but its ok because they're dead so don't know about it.
Yeah we had something like that happen a few months ago here in the USA.
High school coach brings Pastor into high school work out area for football team. He, the Pastor, starts out with these analogies about team work, some comparisons between god ad coach. How you cannot ignore the coach and his rules. If you decide not be part of the team, it's your call, but once you leave the team, it's up to the coach to take you back. You can't just show up for practice the next day. Coach has to be the one to accept you back into the team, it's not your decision to make anymore. Then he explains how the same thing works with god, you cannot leave the team and then just expect to show upset your whim.
The coach is a religious nut thinking he can bring a pastor into the school.
Fortunately my son takes after his father and grabbed his phone and recorded all of it. Lol.
The coach told the kids that if they do not believe in god they can't play on the team.
Anyway I called and talked to the principle and met with her and let her hear the recording in person and she talked to the coach and put him on some type of probationary period. I told her that he would not change and that he would still try to work god into the team somehow.
My wife and a few friends were at a booster club meeting and he told them on the side that someone turned him in for bringing in a Pastor and tht Satan is trying to keep god out of these kids lives.
Little did he know that my wife and the friend are all on the same page regarding separation of church and state. The coach did tell my wife and friend that he would find a way to make it happen, meaning get god back into the presence of this team, somehow.
So I still have that recording if I need it. Maybe the ACLU might be called next.
NJY
does anyone know how to contact cynthia franz to ask if she can inquire about publishing raymond franz's books in ebooks/digital formats?
if raymond franz's books were in digital formats for sale, it could help cyhthia franz to live a little bit better and could also help more jws.. a quick check of www.amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_13?url=search-alias%3daps&field-keywords=crisis%20of%20conscience%20raymond%20franz&sprefix=crisis+of+con%2caps%2c211 suggests that raymond franz's books are in paper editions only.
in the thread coc request, tech49 wanted to obtain a digital copy of "crisis of conscience" so that he could read it without drawing suspicion to himself, but could not locate a digital version of it.
Used to be available on commentarypress.com I think was the site.
I had seen messages over the last year or so that it was not always available n there for some reason.
NJY
yes, rutherford proclaimed in 1918 that "millions now living will never die.
" well it's been 95 years since.
how many 95+ year old people are alive on earth today?
Thanks for confirming that for me.
I wanted to clarify that I myself did not believe that the future claim from the WTBTS that there would be those that in effect, would never die to be a "out" for thier claims of millions now living will never die IE a futuristic setting.
NJY
i could give you hundreds of experiences but let me kick off with the following.
i boarded a train at 4am heading to an airport a few weeks ago.
in my carriage there were at least 100 people.. .
Wake up moment for me, at least a little easy slap on the face.
Was at a KH build down South in the USA and was staying at a local brothers house sleeping on the floor on a blanket.
Heard the other brothers making it into the house, you know, the ones with bedrooms and also the ones that were white and that were
in charge of running the build as far as the construction process it self. They had a distinct look of "Marlon Brando" (Early years) about them. You know the type, white tee shirts, long greased hair with a curl twisted over the forehead Elvis style. Right out of the 50-60s. I was wondering where the pack of cigarettes were that were usually folded under the short sleeve.
Well after a bit of drinking, you could hear them start using the "N" word. Note that the congregation was pretty much if not all Black brothers and sisters as far as I could tell. I say that due to the ones bringing all the food and also the ones dressed like they had just been out in service as they were all black.
So here I was having to listen to some apparently drunk white BROTHERS in charge of the build laughing and useing the "N" word like it was going to be outlawed soon.
I got up, borrowed a truck and went into town and rented a room at the local hotel.
NJY
yes, rutherford proclaimed in 1918 that "millions now living will never die.
" well it's been 95 years since.
how many 95+ year old people are alive on earth today?
So Rutherford NEVER said "millions now living "may" never die" ?
I thought I had seen on a video on youtube that this was the case and that he had changed it after a bit to "WILL" but I may have completely missed that point.
Thanks,..
NJY
pm me ... always looking for new friends.
if not...your bad .
i'm pretty cool.. .
I had created this one, especially for the DC this weekend hoping that some of the attendees there would "check in" and see the apge.
Had hoped that some would have "Liked it" so that others might see it and do the same. Actually not even sure if any of the JWs there have even seen it.
I had assumed that the Jws FB users would have went to the "Check in " feature on the device and have seem the page. I'm not a big FB user so am not even sure that it is showing up for that location. I'm about 4 hours away and can't make the drive just to see,.. lol have an Aunt going there that is really big on Fb and had hoped that she would somehow see it.
Here is the link
https://www.facebook.com/pages/2013-Gods-Word-is-True/413883518725608
NJY
yes, rutherford proclaimed in 1918 that "millions now living will never die.
" well it's been 95 years since.
how many 95+ year old people are alive on earth today?
On another note, to make sure that I understand this, and I'm asking here if this is how it went down.
1. ORIGINALLY Rutherford said "Millions now living MAY never die"
2. THEN he said, "Millions now living WILL never die"
3. THEN the WTBTS quoted him as saying "Millions now living MAY never die"
Whereas they were making a TRUE quote, but were not quoting the latest modification, is this the way it went down?
If not, where can I go to see a connect the dot diagram of what is the issue here?
NJY
yes, rutherford proclaimed in 1918 that "millions now living will never die.
" well it's been 95 years since.
how many 95+ year old people are alive on earth today?
Get this,.. some Jw apologist somewhere wrote and argued that the statement "millions now living will never die" could still be a truthful statement. How you may ask,.. here is his angle.
In the FUTURE paradise earth, heaven, what have you, their will THEN be those that heard that message that were living at that time, that will in effect NEVER DIE.
So although he admits that they did die here on this earth in THIS lifetime, there is the future life where they "WILL NEVER DIE" I know that that is NOT what Rutherford was selling, but it is this particular guys way of dealing with that failed prophecy.
Just sharing,... not my views at all in case your wondering.
NJY
does anybody know the current rules about going to fireworks?
is it or is not acceptable these days?
(us 4th of july week they go on in different locals all week).
My sons friend when we were IN was allowed to purchase and pop some fireworks, just was not allowed to pop any on July 4th. Before or after that day was okay, just not ON THAT DAY since it could make Jehovah sad and cry.
NJY