I ahd asked this question a year or so ago and had one person respond that they recognized their physical brother by the comments he had posted.
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Has anybody meet anyone on here who they knew as a JW. Experiences please
by joe134cd ini'm just curious but has anybody meet some one on jehovahwitness-net who they knew in their jw lives.
just want to hear experiences.
please include the indicators that led up to you identifying each other, and how you eventually revealed yourself.
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JWDEFENSE youtube channel
by wannaexit inwondering what to make of this youtube channel.
looks like it could be put out by wachtower.
http://www.youtube.com/channel/ucn6uoc8oxbgrhqqazu6unsq/videos.
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There is a video on youtube where a ex Jw named Kim, called the WTBTS and talked to them about this youtube channel asking them if it was their official channel and the "Brother" said that the WTBTS has zero presence on youtube or Facebook and that the Legal Team of the WTBTS was working toward shutting these channels down as they were in violation of copywrite laws.
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Major flub in Slavery Watchtower Study Article
by scotoma indo you ever wonder if the watchtower writers actually read the context of their key scriptures?.
they seem intent on perpetuating the idea that the jewish law was divine - perfect.. paragraph two asks the question "what would prompt an israelite slave to forfeit his opportunity.
to be free?".
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I agree,.. great catch. I like the application as to how the WTBTS enslaves our family mentally in the same way. On the getting a slave married right away so that he will have children to keep him attached to the master when the 7 years were up, kinda rings of the "Don't marry out side the Lord" and also no sex outside marriage, no self pleasuring etc kinda forces you into wanting to get married asap.
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Michele says " Barack,..I recently had another one of those birthers try to make contact with me, do you think I should talk to him? ,.... Yeah, I didn't think so"
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JW.org site: Have You Folks Seen This? Telling Kids How to Dress??
by daringhart13 inunder jw.org/children.....become jehovah's friend...time to get ready.....they are encouraging kids to dress the doll up and get them ready for service!!!.
my god......this is so sick.
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Nice to see that the kids are wearing their magic underwear.
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Christmas - love it or leave it?
by Xanthippe ini am just watching my neighbours across the road putting up christmas lights while their children run around bursting with excitement.
i am feeling all christmassy now.
can't wait for my daughter to come home from uni next weekend so we can go and buy a tree from the garden centre.
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WHAT,..you mean there's Christmas parties at school?,.. Oh HELL NO they didnt!!! ( just kidding)
But seriously, I did not know how in the world they would be able to do this stuff, with the supposed seperation of church and state.
I would not object to them participating in something in school but for some reason I would object with it being a in house belief system. I'm guessing that the thumbs up for the school party would be viewed more as a "play along for the nod of the masses" where the house version would be "You mean you REALLY beleive this stuff!!"
Frazzeled UBM
I know that other main stream religions are not listed as a cult per se but feel that it still insist on a mindset of "You need us as a intercessor for your sins, since you are an imperfect being that needs a god to lean on in hard times and will be there holding your hand when you are feeling down" ( is this a Simon and Garfunkel song, sorry if it is, sounds like one haha)
So I see mainstream religions as not as dangerous to the mind as a cult, but still dangerous in a sense as they "partition" the mind a bit and use some of the resources of the mind that could prevent a person from being all that they can be mentally. I want my and my childrens framework of reality to be in alignment with REALITY as much as possible as I feel that this will allow them to make better unencumbered decisions throughout life.
I want to believe in as many true things, and as few wrong things in life as possible. Since I don't believe in a supreme creator I feel that "going down that road of religious belief" is muddying the water, as it were.
I feel that life can be viewed as looking through a piece of glass. When we were young, we started with a clean piece of glass then the well meaning parents started spattering some muddy water on the glass making it harder to see clearly ahead. I have worked long and hard to get that glass clean enough to realize what my parents etc , well meaning as they were, did to my view of life. I finally was able to clean off my piece of glass and also that of my children. The last thing that I want to do is to start spattering on some other debis into their view that will just make it harder to see clearly the road ahead.
I understand that celebrating Xmas can be a good tool into drawing the kids mentally further away from the teachings of the Jws and letting them enjoy this "swing to the other side of the spectrum" belief wise. I just feel that if it's possible to mentally get them out without having to go there it would be better.
I thought that would be the last analogy, but thought of one more.
Getting surgery to remove a tumor, ( sorry WTBTS, got to go) and afterward the Doctor gives a prescription for the pain but you find out that the prescription can be adidictive for some people. Do you suffer through the pain the days afterward by refusing to take the medication or do you take it to ease the pain for a few days but only to realize that you are now fighting an addiction? I know that this seems kinda harsh to some, but that is how I view it, geting too close to this "fun day" can be mentally entrapping to the mind to just turn into a "sheeple" and just go along with the masses just because that is what the masses think is okay to do.
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Michele says " Barack,..I recently had another one of those northers try to make contact with me, do you think I should talk to him? ,.... Yeah, I didn't think so"
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Christmas - love it or leave it?
by Xanthippe ini am just watching my neighbours across the road putting up christmas lights while their children run around bursting with excitement.
i am feeling all christmassy now.
can't wait for my daughter to come home from uni next weekend so we can go and buy a tree from the garden centre.
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Frazzeled UBM said " You have a clean slate so you can design your family Xmas celebration from scratch - take what you like and leave the rest as you seem to be doing - and it will help your kids in relating to other kids to join in the Xmas spirit. Cheers and Merry Xmas"
You just had to get that little dig in at the end didn't you? lol
Honestly, for me, I think it is because it has something to do with supposed christianity and you remember the old "Knee bone connected to the leg bone, leg bone connected to the hip bone" jingle, right? I want to be as far from "religion" as possible. I don't even want my kids minds remotely connected to ANY religious holiday due to the mindset that "it's alright to do just this one holiday,.. then just a little bit more and before you know it, they are buying their women some new clothes around easter time."
Slippery slope alert, slippery slope alert!
I opt to have a mind that is as far from that mind numbing celebrations as possible. Kids smiling happy to get gifts, I can do that, kids being allowed to touch and warm up to sugar coated religious celebrations is not what I had in mind when I worked so hard for the last few years getting them clear of one controlling group to see them fall head over heals into another one due to " it being the normal thing to do"
I just don't get sacrificing mental clarity ( I need all I can get lol) for some made up on ramp to religious indoctrination.
Harriet Tubman said "I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."
I think that it is in a way, being enslaved to something that is not beneficial other than prettiness and gifts is not enough of a trade off for me to open their minds to this celebration that is tied in one way or another to religion. Trying to teach my children not to be "sheeple" and to not tie themselves to something just because everyone else is doing it. I try to teach my kids to be smarter than that and take a look at all it encompasses good and bad before deciding to move forward. Want them to make an informed decision on all things that could mentally be captivating. Moth to the light scenario.
If you dance around enough fires, as pretty as they are, you are likely to fall into one sooner or later.
Not trying to make myself into a martyr here but feel like those that just follow these traditions are not fully thinking it out. I would hate to hear that my childrens children were duped into a cult years from now due to me not being able to inoculate them from religious dogma.
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Christmas - love it or leave it?
by Xanthippe ini am just watching my neighbours across the road putting up christmas lights while their children run around bursting with excitement.
i am feeling all christmassy now.
can't wait for my daughter to come home from uni next weekend so we can go and buy a tree from the garden centre.
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We are doing a Family day where the kids are getting gifts from the parents etc, just not associated with Xmas. I just see celebrating Xmas as a slippery slope, as it were, where slowly their, our, minds kinds start creeping toward celebrating things with out really looking into what started this whole thing.
I understand that it's fun for the kids, but at what cost? Kids will eat candy all day if you let them, but that does not make their desire to celebrate Xmas a good thing just because it feels good.
I just feel that we have mentally been through a lot getting out of this cult and I feel that celebrating anything like this that is based on religion is like throwing in the towel "cause it feels good" I feel people are sometimes like moths that see a bright pretty light and decide to fly to it no matter the cost.
Trying to get my children to try to think above the sheeple that are just going with the herd toward this celebration, just because a lot of people do it and it is fun does not mean that they are not giving up something for this fun time. I somehow feel that i'm a little bit clearer in my thinking for being able to withstand the onslought of just celebrating Xmas. I don't want that to sound belittling but in a way I mentally feel that I'm at a higher level being able to not fall for the bright lights glitz and glamour. Staying away from the merchandising and marketing and seeing what it is all about financially is freeing in a sense.
The only way that I would think that it was okay to do this is if it helped the kids get further away from the cult thinking. But then I think, at what cost, jumping out of one mental trap for another. I can see that a group of people wanting to do this if all their extended family were never Jws and it's a family tradition already. For us, we have never done this and starting a tradition just because seems childish in a way.
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Christmas - love it or leave it?
by Xanthippe ini am just watching my neighbours across the road putting up christmas lights while their children run around bursting with excitement.
i am feeling all christmassy now.
can't wait for my daughter to come home from uni next weekend so we can go and buy a tree from the garden centre.
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I agree with Witness My Furry, I want to have nothing what so ever to do with a holiday having anything to do with religion.
I want to what ever I can to make sure that my children and up theirs, and so on and so on, will be able to keep their minds free from these religiously related traditions.
I'm like, dude, we just got out of a very difficult situation with leaving a cult, and you guys want to jump right back into something else, albeit not as dangerous as a high controls group, that is religiously based? Religion, the thing that makes you feel inadequate and teaches you need a redeemer and are sinfull and need to come to them to be cleansed. Come on, why jeopardize the minds of your kids like this.
Of course I am going to a Winter Solstice party later in the week but that's different.
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