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  Last night the one cool elder calls me

  by confusedandalone in

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  i figured he was going to arrange the committee and try to get me kicked out after the whole "big pile of books" labelled "take this shit".. well his call made me realize that more and more people ... elders included no longer take this religion seriously.

  after he told me he heard what happened he actually laughed and said i would never expect that.

  he then told me that it is apparent that i no longer want to be connected to the organization.

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  notjustyet

  " be left alone" as then at a later date you could always be Da of Dfd. Why give up the ability to talk to your family if yo do not have to.

  Options, options, options,..

  Keep em open,..

  NJY
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  I'm not going back...finally

  by lostinthought in

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  it has been several years since my awakening.

  since then i have stopped pioneering, stopped doing temp work at bethel, stopped field service (at the most, i went out a few hours a month for the last couple of months), my meeting attendance has been around 50 percent or so.

  i have decided not to go back.

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  You know what you are doing for yourself is right,.. that alone is a great place to be mentally. It looks like you need to figure out how not to feel guilty and to do that I think that you need to find out why you feel guilty so that you can dismantle the things that push you into that feeling of guilt.

  You mentioned that you know what you are doing "is right for me" I would take that a step further and say that it is not only right for you, but should be right for everyone. How can leaving a High Control Group ever be the wrong thing to do? Do you think that, even on the slightest level, that there is something right about the WTBTS? I ask because I wonder if you somehow think that you are doing something wrong where the Jws are somehow correct and that you have failed and just could not take it personally.

  I think that we need to view it from a different perspective, we need to view the "still in" jws as being in a whirlpool in a rushing river where you have clawed your way out and are now getting your breath and are trying to figure out a way to throw someone a line to help them get out

  I think that the only person guilty in that analogy would be if the person who makes their way out just turns and leaves without at least trying to sar some of the others stuck in that whirlpool.

  There is no guilt in trying to justify that you made it out of the whirlpool. Don't feel guilty!

  If asked now why I had stopped attending I would want to use this one "If you have to ask, then you are not ready to know" or " I guess me BS detector is set to a higher level of sensitivity than most others"

  NJY
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  Revelation Climax book - what are the most ridiculous claims in it?

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i got to thinking about all the strange interpretations in the old revelation climax book now that i have perused it again on pdf.

  (thanks atlantis!).

  does anyone care to toss in their two cents on what are the most outrageous and/or ridiculous claims in it?.

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  Lat'Lon can be contained within some picture data. W/Video

  by notjustyet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  wanted to share this video regarding the info that could be contained in the pics you may be taking with your smart phone and other devices that have locations services turned on.

  seems that your location data could be pulled from some pics and the exact place that the pics were taken shown on a map.

  with all the bad guys out there, pedophiles and elders looking to snag a jw, you may want to turn off location services to "off" when it comes to pics you may post of yourself or trips you take.

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  notjustyet

  Wanted to share this video regarding the info that could be contained in the pics you may be taking with your smart phone and other devices that have locations services turned on.
  Seems that your location data could be pulled from some pics and the exact place that the pics were taken shown on a map.
  With all the bad guys out there, pedophiles and Elders looking to snag a JW, you may want to turn off location services to "off" when it comes to pics you may post of yourself or trips you take. Blurring your face is not enough it seems these days.
  Check out the video.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2vARzvWxwY
  
  NJY
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  Christmas

  by Mahtaw in

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  was raised a jw, started fading out about 3 and a half years ago.

  i recently had a child, and my in laws are baptist.

  they love christmas.

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  I'm 100% with you Mathaw,.

  I see zero need to celebrate something that I know is based on a false religious premise.

  I have children who I do not want to get sold into another form of slavery albeit less restrictive than the Jw sentence.

  Way would a person burden themselves with such troubles I will never know. Caving into pressure to conform if you ask me.

  NJY
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  Well I gotta go......

  by punkofnice in

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  2. friends

  ...i might drop in every now and then but i hope you all enjoy life, escape the watchtower(r) and live prosperous lives.. i can't say i contribute much here anyway (and i'm not attention seeking).. i'm just going to get on with life away from the constant reminder of the mistakes i made being a jw zombie drone.. i guess i'm just going to fade.......rather quickly.. of course i didn't need to make any posts here to disappear but i thought it'd be polite and very british to bid you all a fond farewell.. see you all sometime.....maybe.....maybe not.....maybe....... bye!.

  ps.

  don't pm me as i won't be checking the pms.. .

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  Enjoyed your videos,..have a good life,..

  I just thought about how the eskimos or inuits possibly used to take the old and useless persons and put them on a piece of ice alone and send them

  off to basically die on the piece of flaoting ice that is seperated from the mainland.

  What you are doing is the exact opposite, you have been ON that piece of floating ice seperated from humanity in general and have decided to break off a smaller piece and head for the mainland to live out a good life as you are not used up.

  NJY

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  JW's will foam at the mouth if you pray to Jesus? Do they try to tell you this prior to the big sting?

  by Narcissistic Supply in

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  it took me 7 years to figure out that jeho's are mortified to sit in the room if you pray to jesus.

  i've prayed to jesus my entire life.

  i tell my estranged spouse that she can pound sand if she doesn't like me praying to jesus with my two little girls.. i tell her and her mom to pound lots and lots of sand if you think i"m going to stop praying to jesus.

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  They actually worshipped Jesus up until 1954.

  Then it was idolatrous.

  Here is a URL that you will have to copy and paste that discusses this flip flop on the matter.

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/worship-jesus.php

  NJY
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  Alcyone was Jehovahs "crib"

  by notjustyet in

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  2. beliefs

  i was doing some reading up on the wtbts former belief that the annointed would go and be with jehovah and jesus on "alcyone" when they died.

  (alcyone is a star system in the constellation taurus.

  it is the brightest star in the pleiades open cluster, which is a young cluster, aged at less than 50 million years.

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  I was doing some reading up on the WTBTS former belief that the annointed would go and be with Jehovah and Jesus on "Alcyone" when they died. (Alcyone is a star system in the constellation Taurus. It is the brightest star in the Pleiades open cluster, which is a young cluster, aged at less than 50 million years. Alcyone is approximately 370 light years from Earth. Wikipedia)

  Alcyone is in the Pleiades constellation and you may have heard that Charles Taze(r) Russel believed that this was where the throne of Jah was as this star was thought to be the center of the Universe. Ties in with some mytholgy and pyramid stuff etc,..

  Anyway, didn't the Heavens Gate members think that when they died that they would be taken to a waiting spaceship hiding in the tail of the Hail Bop Comet?

  We all pretty much think that the Heavens Gate members are KRAE KRAE right? Is there really that much difference in belief between what the early JWs used to believe and what the Heavens Gate members "used" to believe? Just really the location as to where they would wind up. Jws would be Alyone, Heavens Gate would be Hale Bops Comet (in space ship) Jws beleived it would happen the instant when they died, Heavens Gate believed it the instant when they died.

  I have not heard what the current belief is as far as "where" everyone of the annointed is supposed to wind up when they die. I would love to ask them is they were going to be spread around the universe or be in one location like a government usually does. Of course they would have to be able to obseves what is happening on the Earth etc. I would love to try to pin them down on what physical location they would say that they would be confined to.

  NJY
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  Being told you are hated by everyone?

  by trailerfitter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay, after a discussion with the seperated wife who admitted that because she is a jehovahs witness that she expects to be hated by everyone.

  she expressed that she was "foreign" and not the same as others since she is not of this world.

  okay, reality check - this is actually taught by the watchtower?

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  "Worldly" what does it mean?

  by msconcerned in

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  2. friends

  i have recently been using the expression "people not of our faith" and it shocks me to be corrected everytime by, "you mean worldly".

  i dont really like the word worldly because i feel it is a degrading word to describe people we love so much that we try to find them in the ministry.

  below are a couple of quotes from recent watchtowers that really give us the esscence of the word worldly as far as the watchtower is concerned.. janusz, who lives in eastern europe, became engrossed in his gardening business.

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  My family and I have been out going on 2 years and last year when one of my sons teachers ( who knows our story about leaving this cult) told my wife

  " It's great getting to know him, he is so worldy" She saw my wifes face change to concern ( and then added ) "Oh,.. I mean worldy in a good way, well rounded, travelled and an impressive vocabulary for his age" (I'm paraphrasing here a bit, but you get the gest)

  My wife then understood that she meant "wordly" in a good way, the way that non cult members see it. They both had a chuckle at that.

  It does go to show that there sometimes can be some cobwebs that stick in the mind as far as the cults definition of certain words.

  We were glad to hear that our child is considered "wordly" on both levels really,...

  NJY