Posts by bikerchic002

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My Final Goodbye

by Lady Lee in

i want to start by saying i will not participate in discussion here about my resignation as a moderator at jwn.. simon please consider this as my resignation from that position.. i have been posting on this board for almost 12 years.

i know some of you a lot, others a little and some not very well at all.

i have remained here for those of you who have needed support as you make the transition out of the wts, who needed someone to listen to your experiences of abuse at the hands of jehovah's witnesses, and to both laugh and cry with you as you progress out of the watchtower society.. we know that we have all experienced the cruelty of abuse of one kind or another.

bikerchic002

Dear Lee,

I wondered onto JWD, sorry JWN (old habits and all that) because I was thinking about Craig and all the fun we had here and you of course were a big part of that. I just want to say I wish you the best in whatever your endevors are. You are an amazing lady and surly put the "Lady" in your handle. You've been such a great help to so many people and leave a great legacy here which I dare say no one will ever be able to fill.

That said will your leaving leave a "hole" here, probably, but people will continue on as usual, and as they should in their recovery. That's the best part of JWN, it truly helps with the healing, learning and reinventing ones life. It's a huge endevor coming out of a cult as we all know. I have found that to truly get out you really have to rediscover, remake, relearn, reinvent, regroup and most importantly move on. Once you've discovered the "truth about the truth" and gotten over the shock of it all, get the hell out of dodge and get on with making the best life you can.

12 years is a long time to commit to reeducating people. I hope you find it's time for you, to do whatever your heart wants and leads you to do. Helping people is in your nature, good for you but don't forget to help yourself, psych 101, "Doctor heal thyself." Just saying.....the rest tends to sort itself out. Craig use to have a saying about moving the peas and carrots around on the plate, it's better to eat 'em and allow them to nourish your body and soul then move them around on the plate, just make sure you're not merly moving the peas and carrots around on the plate by moving to this new website. Anyway he said something like that, god I miss him he was full of sayings like that, but I digress.

Farkel said it best go back to page one (I'm too freaking lazy to do it for you and c/p it) but he's another gem JWlD, that Farkel, love that guy. Love you too Lee and you go out and get a life, be good to yourself. Life is truly wonderful and amazing once you're rid of the cult crap.

Okay I'm feeling melencoly and I am of course looking at the good times Craig and I had here and am truly grateful for Simon, Angharad and JWD for giving us the chance to meet. It was all good. And now in honor of the real reason I cruised onto JWN in the first place I'm going to revisit some of the Craigster's old stuff, it was his birthday a few days ago and he's been on my mind, I miss him and one of the great things about JWD and the Internet is you can go back and you don't have to stay.

Love you Lee and please take good care of yourself, and be well.

~ Kate

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I gotta RANT for a minute( MIL blues)

by thecrushed in

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friends

it's only been a month or so sense i fully awoke to the fact that my whole family for 3 generations has been fully entrenched in a cult.

i went threw terrible drug addiction like withdraws, panic attacks, suicidal thoughts etc etc etc.

for about a week i could barely sleep and then another all i wanted to do is sleep.

bikerchic002

I think you would be well to take a couple more minutes on this one.....

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Better hope there is a God!

by Nambo in

and he comes pretty soon, else we are up a certain creek.

as i cannot copy and paste, you will have to google, fukushima hanging by a thread, then click on the link from theintelhub.com.. great picture of 460 tons of nucleur fuel atop a building that you darent even lean against..

bikerchic002

Do you ever wonder IF there was/is a God this would even be a discussion?

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My son was murdered today

by truman in

i have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.

i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.

maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.

bikerchic002

Such a horrible and senseless death. My deepest sympathies and condolences are with you. I have no idea how a Mother gets over the death of her child but know you have a community of people here who will comfort you the best as we can.

They say time is a great healer and from experience I can say you will have good days and horrible days and then one day the sun will again shine. You will always have wonderful memories to hold dear, think of those during the bad days.

Wishing the love and peace in your heart will soon encompass you daily.

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Been there, done that......

by bikerchic002 in

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friends

.......got the crumby t-shirt to prove it!.

i simply don't care on bit about all the jw stuff.

i am however on a trek to see what this life is all about, my life.

bikerchic002

Thanks Blondie! You're incredible WT study every week helped me with my exit and I thank you for your hard work. You're awesome!

~ Kate

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Been there, done that......

by bikerchic002 in

jw
friends

.......got the crumby t-shirt to prove it!.

i simply don't care on bit about all the jw stuff.

i am however on a trek to see what this life is all about, my life.

bikerchic002

.......got the crumby T-shirt to prove it!

I truly am over it! I simply don't care on bit about all the JW stuff. I am however on a trek to see what this life is all about, my life. It's such a huge freedom I can't explain it, except to say I can finally exhale and the inhaling doesn't hurt anymore.

I came here just looking, I do every so often and I am reminded more and more how much I've grown and how much I owe to this place, many of you helped me in my exit from the Borg. It took years! I am truly thankful for the time, the knowledge the experience.

If it's your desire to get out, or not, I wish you the best journey on your road to recovery, or discovery.

I am daily dealing very upclose and personal with family who are active JW's where I live, and it's good to come here and get grounded every now and again.

Thanks everyone and keep on keeping on!

~ Kate

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If you don't understand what "accretion" is---how can you understand Bible?

by Terry in

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friends

morality, in order to be anything, cannot be everything.. it cannot be both good and bad.

a standard must be definitive.

borders and boundries define exactly where is is.. what is the bible?.

bikerchic002

LOL @ tec. Don't mind me, I truly know where you're coming from and it's all okay.

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Without God, Do Humans Have More Intrinsic Value Than Animals?

by leavingwt in

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friends

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if there is no god (however defined), do humans have more intrinsic value than animals?

feel free to offer brief or complex responses.

bikerchic002

World English Dictionary

intrinsic or intrinsical (?n'tr?ns?k)

— adj
1.
of or relating to the essential nature of a thing; inherent
Within each species there is an inherented built in nature for hierachy. Only the strong survive among each species, humans included. Keep it simple, silly. Live and let live.

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Has Anyone Been Present When a Dissident Spoke in KH?

by Band on the Run in

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friends

i know some dissatisified members have planned to "throw caution to the wind" when they exit and break the news as a stunning revelation of lies.

some of my funniest memories were of teachers and others terminated but since they had to finish their contract, they decided to share their insights and horrors.

in normal life, there is a certain allowance made under the circumstances.

bikerchic002

I remember it happening on a few occasions. Mostly it was newbies who simply did not know or understand how commenting at the meetings worked and they were promptly cut off by the speaker.

One time however the person was not only cut off but the mike was taken from him and he was escorted out of the building under much protest.

I should have gotten a clue back then.......only a cult wouldn't allow for different POV's or be open for discussion.

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If you don't understand what "accretion" is---how can you understand Bible?

by Terry in

jw
friends

morality, in order to be anything, cannot be everything.. it cannot be both good and bad.

a standard must be definitive.

borders and boundries define exactly where is is.. what is the bible?.

bikerchic002

For the sake of argument (for God in this case), I think it boils down to a more fundamental question. Why anything? God didn't have to create anything or anyone. I would go so far as to say that creating what could never aspire to be on God's level, was already a bad move? And yet, it wouldn't be, because here we are. Even if God made a bad move, you're still happy to be here, aren't you? The only way he could deal with inferior creatures is precisely by lowering his standards. There is simply no other way. No one could be on God's level.

For me you would first have to prove there is a god. Which could be why we are all humans dealing with humans on this planet called earth.

For tec, are you blond?

~ Kate

intrinsic or intrinsical (?n'tr?ns?k)

— *adj*
1.	of or relating to the essential nature of a thing; inherent