hi guys,.
following on from my earlier threat about huge amounts of money simply vanishing from my old congregations bank account with nothing to show for it (here: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5742472565096448/satisfying-decline-my-old-congregations-donations) - i actually did take someones advice and requested the uk charity commission to investigate.
i was called today by a person who is not investigating this.
PE,
Maybe this will help:
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations
or the pdf of the letter from avoidjw.com:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwqmWMK7dwtlcjNMdGJYbkZMdVk/view
Don't know about the clause. I'm in the states.
Thank you for your efforts!!!
i ask this question for good reason.
let's face it, despite all the books, videos, forums, court cases, hearings, protests etc that have been exposing the society for many years.
jw.org continues to roll on almost 'it seems' unscathed.. for example, just walk into any kingdom hall there is not so much as a whisper about anything that has been exposed outside of jw land.
I would also like to see someone hack into their website. They put out a rumor about that btw. They say that they didn't think about website security at all, just forgot about it. Then sometime in 2013, 2014, or 2015 I don't remember which, it dawned on them that they should put some protection on their websites. Of course, they then say that Jehovah was protecting them before that. ooooh! aaaaah!
Ha! Right. Lying a@@es.
absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.
i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.
i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.
PE,
Congratulations!!!
In reading the replies I learned you lost your wife and child to the cult. So sorry. Your OP made my jaw drop, and then again when I read that he found JWfacts! Yay!!!!! He'll stay out for sure now! Yippee!!! Yahoo!!!
Like most of us he will probably devour jwfacts. Perfect.
Oh! and he knows how to behave for the elders! great! Maybe he could record a meeting for sharing in the future if he wants, adding to the great cloud of witnesses on youtube. Or just to listen a couple years later. But, I'm jumping ahead maybe and you probably don't want to suggest that, too soon.
ps I have found you can speed up elders talking on a recording by 1.5 to 2 times and it is just fine. They are so hypnotically slow.
just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.
there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.
i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.
The meaning of the name Wakanda is Possesses Magical Powers. The origin of the name Wakanda is Native American. This is the culture in which the name originated, or in the case of a word, the language.
Sioux.
I just liked it. It feels like I have magical powers as a Physically In Mentally Out person because the indoctrination tries to fool us that they/GeeHover would know of anyone thinking freely (apostate)! My covert activism also seems magical as no one suspects me. ;)
i heard how in the 80's the gb always flew first class, nice resort hotels, etc.
there are the photos of geoffrey with his 17k apple watch, etc.
unless they are paying for cash, many of these things would have a paper trail on credit card statements, etc.
I fly pretty frequently for work and get upgraded maybe 40% of the time to first class
What airline still does that? What are you gold or diamond level or something? I see empty seats in first class all the time (while seeing the frequent flyers board early... in coach), and know of frequent fliers that used to get upgraded ten plus years ago, but not anymore. The airlines are cheap cheap cheap, and I haven't heard of them giving anything away for free, including upgrades.
For crying out loud, I often see the emergency exit aisles partly empty because people won't pay the extra that the airlines want now for the leg room.... This means there are frequent flyers that are on the plane that did not even get "upgraded" to the exit aisle (if you can call it an upgrade when it is just an exit aisle).
You are the first person I've heard say you get upgraded. I'm flying soon and I will ask passengers and crew, and I will ask the people I know who work in the industry.
so it's not enough that i'm dealing with post traumatic stress/anxiety and panic attacks all related to my life as a jw (50 years baptized -- i stopped going a couple of months ago) at 3 a.m. i get an email from the other side of the world.
'you have to go to the convention.
bro sanderson says we must watch the news, things are happening.
I appreciate your kind words. I know you are both right, it's just getting that into my stupid head!!!!
Phoebe sweetie: Your head is not stupid; you are an amazing person that realized you were in a cult and are getting out mentally. It is difficult, it will be a tug of war in your mind for a while, and then you will see through it all. Then you will get out spiritually, emotionally, and dear god hopefully physically.
Congrats and I agree with jp1692 to stay away from scary emails in the middle of the night.
3 missed calls from my jw brother last night.
i didnt answer because he's actively shunning me and when he does ring it always to preach to me about how we're so close to the end and how i should "humble myself before the mighty hand of god" .
he then texts me saying "we need to talk".
not sure if this has already been submitted, but we need exjws to mobilize on this.. from: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5kzyfn/lets_get_jws_propaganda_out_of_disneyland/.
posted by: sweetpotatopeachtree .
i submitted the following on the disneyland facebook page (link below) on december 19th after seeing jws peddling their cult propaganda at downtown disney in anaheim, ca.
They are still there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ooZvsDdHk&feature=youtu.be
this is my first time making an o.p.
an elder told me that he had access to a website online that had all the old bound volumes and books.
also, he made sure to say it was not an apostate website, but a 'legit' website made by brothers.
Thanks Pale Emperor! Yeah, the current JWs are too busy with current cult crap to look at old stuff that just irritates the dissonance. I'll check out the links to see if I can share my findings with family.
Thanks Diogenesister. I've looked a little bit at exjwreddit, like it a lot. I love avoidjw.com's resources, but I guess I was also wondering if there was a legit site I could refer to as a source to a current jw.
When I said they don't have everything I was thinking about Mike and Kim's big binder of letters and crazy extra stuff that has gotten 'lost' for lack of a better word. Wish I could think of an example.. apologies. I don't take notes and file them while watching M & K, as I live with 'in' Jdubs. But, I wouldn't anyway.
It is absolutely b@$ $h(! crazy that referring to their own literature on an ex-jw website would raise red flags, but I know I know, it's a cult! Then that an elder can brag about access to all the literature without sharing.
That elder must be on apostate websites... I have wondered if he is a narcissist. He's sort of charming, but boy he can turn on people. I can't imagine knowing and still working for WT whole heartedly, but it appears some do just that. Unless they are very good at faking it. IDK.
this is my first time making an o.p.
an elder told me that he had access to a website online that had all the old bound volumes and books.
also, he made sure to say it was not an apostate website, but a 'legit' website made by brothers.
Thanks Magnum. That's what I've been thinking lately, and I love that avoidjw.com has so much. I can't say it has it all, because that is probably just impossible.
