I think my co-dependance or something like that is showing. IDK.
Wakanda
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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Wakanda
Thanks much. I'm not an ex-bethelite, btw. I've just known too many, mostly asleep and worse off for having gone.
Also, thanks OC.
I think when we reminisce we can get back into the mindset we had at the time, i.e. being 19. Silent could have been thinking about the situation from a non-indoctrinated 19 year old point of view, but still 19. Also, drag comedy is seen a lot in society, and we are sort of indoctrinated to laugh at it. ???
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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Wakanda
Silent Budda: "Wakanda, I imagine for one second what would have happened if I would have suggested that a governing body member was suffering from dementia while speaking to an overseer. That would have been a bad and move."
I didn't suggest that. I KNOW that would have been a bad move. I was not saying what you should have done, just commenting on Bethel's lack of professionalism when it comes to the elderly, actually no professionalism. They might have thrown you out if you said he had dementia? I wouldn't doubt it.
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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Wakanda
They have no idea how to take care of the elderly, and here is one story to prove it. I have another, but that's another story. There had to be many other instances of utter craziness from ole Lyman before this; would anyone help him not embarrass himself? No. They let this 'Christ's brother' do all this crazy shit. He was most likely headstrong, eh? Stiff necked some would say? Bethel is wrong on so many levels. In another area of JWdom an elderly sister with all her shit together is being controlled in every little thing, with her son taking over her finances... You can bet on it.
Silentbudda, I hear ya, looking back there are so many red flags. We were just indoctrinated not to notice them and of course forgive, forgive, forgive, etc.
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Scared Kids with cognitive dissonance
by Wakanda inthis is not about sexual child abuse, and i apologize if i put it under the wrong subject area.
stream of consciousness writing: .
i was just thinking about how before i became more of an uber dub in my teen years i was a very frightened child.
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Pioneers, Prayers and Pills
by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho inlooking back on my two decades as a jehovah’s witness, i’ve come to realize how the constant theme of endurance is playing a detrimental role on the individual's psyche.. jehovah’s witnesses have become far too good at keeping going.
they’re experts at surrendering to the demands of the watchtower, living up to what’s expected of them, and getting on with the priorities that those in power have defined and imposed upon them.
they keep showing up, presenting themselves a dutiful pioneer or ministerial servant.
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Wakanda
Well said.
I had the same thing happen. I remember brothers and sisters telling me to try this pill or that pill... hold on a stitch. They still do! I tell them I'll ask my doctor.
I remember hearing people say my type of breakdown was a 'journey' and many have 'spiritual awakenings'. I thought it was hokum. Well...
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Scared Kids with cognitive dissonance
by Wakanda inthis is not about sexual child abuse, and i apologize if i put it under the wrong subject area.
stream of consciousness writing: .
i was just thinking about how before i became more of an uber dub in my teen years i was a very frightened child.
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Wakanda
Thanks for the support. It meant so much as my post made me feel so vulnerable. x
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Scared Kids with cognitive dissonance
by Wakanda inthis is not about sexual child abuse, and i apologize if i put it under the wrong subject area.
stream of consciousness writing: .
i was just thinking about how before i became more of an uber dub in my teen years i was a very frightened child.
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Wakanda
This is not about Sexual Child Abuse, and I apologize if I put it under the wrong subject area.
Stream of consciousness writing:
I was just thinking about how before I became more of an uber dub in my teen years I was a very frightened child. Even at maybe 9 or 10 I was afraid of later somehow becoming pregnant and getting kicked out on the street. It seemed like wt studies back then mentioned the plague of teen pregnancy every other week. I knew I was safe in the wt, if I followed all their rules, because my parents had to follow their rules. This, however, was not a conscious thought. My parents did not help me feel safe. My parents would talk about how loving they were because of a test in Victorian times where babies were not loved and they died. That has got to be abusive in itself. WTF? You are alive, hence loved enough. Also, my parents spoke of how loving they were because I have a roof over my head and food. Then they would ask for their hug. Their hug??? (Narcissistic Family, I know) I remember looking at a parent putting his arm around his daughter at the meeting and just feeling so empty and ill inside. There was no relative of mine anywhere not in this sick cult, and they were not even close. The cult makes even families that are totally in, less close. There were and are popularity contests among my relatives. So effing sick. It is almost like getting trauma based mind control, although that is such a controversial subject. No wonder I would get sick at conventions as a kid, my body was screaming at me. But I was taught to ignore my body, to the extent of not even getting enough exercise, bodily training scripture misinterpreted. BTW, my awakening co-insided with getting more in touch with my body.
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I watched some of the Regional Assembly
by Sour Grapes ini watched about 2 hours of the regional assembly and these are my thoughts.
the video's and songs did stir my good memories of when i was a jdub elder and very happy in the religion.
i can see how these two things would make it difficult to leave the borg because of the emotional buy-in.. now getting into the talks, the cults true colors show and i wonder how in the hell was i a part of that for over 40 years.
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Wakanda
I was just thinking about this LV101. I was wondering how new people even come in?! Well, the one I have talked to in the last year said it took him years, and he was just so slow. Then it dawned on me Mellinially, ha ha, that he was brainwashed years ago not to look at any 'apostate' or negative info about JWs. Then he finally got completely sucked in.
Also, I saw tears forming from those damned videos. Dammit.
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There is Important Dutch News: majority in Dutch Parliament require an investigation into child abuse within JWs
by AndersonsInfo inthere is important dutch news: majority in dutch parliament require an investigation into child abuse within jwshttp://translate.google.com/translate?u=https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nederland/politiek/tweede-kamer-eist-onafhankelijk-onderzoek-naar-misbruik-jehovahs-getuigen&hl=en&langpair=auto%7cen&tbb=1&ie=utf-8.
the lower house requires independent investigation into abuse of jehovah's witnesses .
june 28, 2018 18:56 .
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Wakanda
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