So just an off comment observation.
I see no factories in this paradise photo and once again, all the guys are perfectly clean shaven. So will BIC still be in business in the new world or what? Having to shave forever would really suck.
instead of making a new thread for every little thing related to memorial 2017, i'm going to try to post here.
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and to start us off.... cart artwork for 2017 memorial invitations.
So just an off comment observation.
I see no factories in this paradise photo and once again, all the guys are perfectly clean shaven. So will BIC still be in business in the new world or what? Having to shave forever would really suck.
anyone reading [or did read] the bible without someone else telling you what it meant?.
would you be leaning towards the jws or baptists or lutherans or what?.
just asking.
Atheism or humanism.
Atheist: because you'll see quite quickly that the Bible isn't scientifically nor historically accurate so if God wrote the Bible why did he get so many things wrong?
Humanist: because you see all the hell God does to humans and you strive to never be like that.
one thing i've never understood is judicial committees.
yes, i understand it's held to see if elders should go through with the disfellowshipping process.
but why give them all the power?
Just quote the 2017 February Watchtower page 26 paragraph 12. The GB have given up all power saying that they are not divinely inspired. I told the elders that since the GB are not divinely inspired, that means that the elders were not of divine appointment and therefore are just self-appointed powerless men.
Just tell them that if they keep harassing you that they will have to deal with your attorney.
They haven't called or written since and we were not disfellowshipped.
i was raised in jw as a child.
my dad was a jw my mom was not, they are divorced now.
i was never baptized or anything but i stopped going once i had the choice at age 12. now i am 41 and my dad will not associate with me, my wife or my 3 kids.
Some of the shunning could be based off fear that you will try to "unwitness" to them. My family and friends are shunning us also so I am very sorry for what you are going through. Perhaps by letting him know you will not separate him from his faith he will feel safer to be around you.
Its a fear inducing cult after all. They are afraid of their own shadow.
in the congregation bible study, the book addressed how "truth" is progressive.... 18 just as jehovah progressively revealed truths about the kingdom in the period leading up to 1914, he continues to do so during the time of the end.
as chapters 4 and 5 of this book will show, over the past 100 years, god’s people have had to adjust their understanding on a number of occasions.
does that fact mean that they do not have jehovah’s backing?
How does this crazy study build faith? It would seem to do the exact opposite. I personally think the GB are testing the sheep to see who will be loyal no matter what is said. They are working out any who would question the GB's authority.
And as usual, the book study proves to be a disastrous waste of time.
looking back at this journey that my wife and i took this last year has been quite life changing.
who would have ever thought that two watchtower drones would experience an awakening after child loss?
we can finally move forward since coming out to our family that we will no longer be jehovah's witnesses.
Thank you dubstepped it means the world to hear that. You are so right about it being validating. It's like a seal of approval that we have made the right choice, to lose some but gain the world. I wish you and your wife freedom and happiness as well.
looking back at this journey that my wife and i took this last year has been quite life changing.
who would have ever thought that two watchtower drones would experience an awakening after child loss?
we can finally move forward since coming out to our family that we will no longer be jehovah's witnesses.
Thanks ToesUp. Thank you for all your kind advice and criticisms. I have threatened legal action like you had mentioned to those Elder bums if they ever mess with us or harass us again. This has worked like a charm!! We are in a limbo state, not DF'ed or DA'ed, just free to do what we choose.
My favorite Watchtower quote:
"No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family." 7/09 Awake pp28-29
This is the response they will get from us if ever they try to encroach on our freedom again!
looking back at this journey that my wife and i took this last year has been quite life changing.
who would have ever thought that two watchtower drones would experience an awakening after child loss?
we can finally move forward since coming out to our family that we will no longer be jehovah's witnesses.
Looking back at this journey that my wife and I took this last year has been quite life changing. Who would have ever thought that two Watchtower drones would experience an awakening after child loss? We can finally move forward since coming out to our family that we will no longer be Jehovah's Witnesses. Yes, we lost our family and our (conditional) friends, but what we have gained is far more exceeding.
Last night at our Compassionate Friends meeting that meets monthly as a support for those who lost children, someone commented that for the first time my wife no longer has that look of stress on her face. She is bubbly and happy again. Even in our conversations she is much more positive now. We have found many new friends amongst our grief groups, and our non-Witness family has opened up their arms to us after being away for almost 20 years!! Personally I am finally at peace, no longer feeling stressed about Watchtower mumbo-jumbo. No longer angry over the loss of our children. I look at their loss as a gift, they gave up their lives to give us back ours. I will always honor them for the love they showed me. Every day is their day, and I will try to live as they would want us to live, free and happy.
We have even been invited by a same-sex married couple to their church. This place is open and accepting to all, and that's the kind of people I want to learn from and be more like. While I cannot ignore the flaws the Bible contains I'd hope to learn principles that can guide us if we ever get blessed with living children. My hope is that they too will share our love for life and treat others above themselves.
With this in mind I just wanted to say thank you to everyone on this message board for putting up with my bs this last year. Thank you for all the good advice. Thank you for being there during a very dark time. You will always be on my heart and mind as we continue to move forward.
Cheers and good day!!
so the wife and i were uninvited to another jw get together which we didn't want to go to anyways.
finally we find out that something on my facebook account is getting some people's in my old halls undies in a bunch.
so i was thinking of meeting with them to at least clear my wife's name and give them some much needed hell.
I wonder that myself Kairos. What will be more telling is what doctrine they will abandon. 1914? Blood transfusions? Two Witness rule?
This false religion is in for some big changes I imagine starting with the summer conventions or possible the big yearly thing they do.
so the wife and i were uninvited to another jw get together which we didn't want to go to anyways.
finally we find out that something on my facebook account is getting some people's in my old halls undies in a bunch.
so i was thinking of meeting with them to at least clear my wife's name and give them some much needed hell.
LOL Kairos I did. I still have the quote: " I don't understand? What are you referring to?"
That was his response to me sending him that quote along with telling him I won't be meeting with the elders.