is it because we were in the cult watchtower compound that we talk about being ex-jw's when we stop being active?
i have never heard anyone say that i was an ex-catholic or an ex-lutheran or an ex-baptist.
they just stop going to their church and don't talk about it.. years after not stepping inside a kingdom hell, many of us still have to talk about being ex-jw's.
Very few religions tell you what medical treatment a parent can give their child, or that you may not speak to your own daughter because she now believes something different from you, or what kind of education you can get, etc etc.
The greater the control the greater the rebellion when you realize you have been conned, and maybe when people complain it is just because they have a desire to help others avoid being conned too.
many people of all denominations are beginning to believe that hell does not exist - but the bible supports the claim that it does.
examine this verse, one under nkjv and the other nwt:.
nkjv - matthew 25:46, "and these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.".
I think hell might exist because there is a story about a huge building surrounded by fire and lava and inside is a large dragon, making a journey to this evil place is a giant and a donkey that speaks! Oh wait that's Shrek, sorry, got my talking animals mixed up.
december 6, 2017 to all congregations re: study of jesus—the way.
jesus—the way, the truth, the life.
And to introduce the item in the meeting about how important Jesus is, they will use a song from the new song book that has the name Jesus in the title. Unfortunately there isn't one!
hi all,i have been studying with the witnesses for more than 6 months and regularly attend both midweek & weekend meetings, and i am nearly at the end of the "bible teach" book.
my boss is adamant i attend team christmas functions.
she knows about my studying and potential baptism next year, and has suggested that i attend and just not participate in activities like kris kringle.
rulehayl You seemed to have judged every single person on this forum without knowing anything about them.
You will make a great J.W.
what do you think there hiding?.
I remember listening to a talk some years ago about the angels keeping Jehovah's congregation clean and clearing out wrongdoers.
What a pile of absolute drivel.
this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.
there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.
nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.
Having looked at my last post on this thread I think one of man's greatest inventions is the spelling/grammar checker, and I really need to use one :-)
this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.
there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.
nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.
what a breath a fresh air to be free of watchtower.
now i can finally rant about the things i put up with that i'd never put up with now.. in no particular order:.
little kids in suits.
I could not stand the hypocrisy, such as elders who never speak to you at a meeting suddenly wanting to give you a shepherding call because they care for you so much. Strangely this caring often developed a week before the C.O. was visiting and disappeared the day after he left.
"the way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own, but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end.
now you will have peace for eternity.
" -- maleva, the wolf man.
Anytime I think about J.W. meetings I remember the quote from Madagascar 2.
"Sorry do you mind going back, this is 1st class, it's nothing personal it's just that we are better than you"
- King Julian
the needle has been stuck on the record for over 130 years - thanks to mr. russell and his successive cohorts:.
page 11, paragraph 19 - “as this system nears its end,....”.
page 13, paragraph 5 - “do my actions show that i truly believe that these are the last days and that the end of satan’s rule is near?”.
"A WORLD does not end every day! Not since the great flood of Noah’s time has a “world” or system of things for governing the affairs of all mankind passed out of existence. But now, by occurrence of every detail of the great sign Jesus gave, we know that we face the imminent end of the present world system"
- Watchtower 1st December 1952 (p709)
Just as others have said it is easier to get scared sheep to do what they are told.
