rulehayl You seemed to have judged every single person on this forum without knowing anything about them.
You will make a great J.W.
hi all,i have been studying with the witnesses for more than 6 months and regularly attend both midweek & weekend meetings, and i am nearly at the end of the "bible teach" book.
my boss is adamant i attend team christmas functions.
she knows about my studying and potential baptism next year, and has suggested that i attend and just not participate in activities like kris kringle.
rulehayl You seemed to have judged every single person on this forum without knowing anything about them.
You will make a great J.W.
what do you think there hiding?.
I remember listening to a talk some years ago about the angels keeping Jehovah's congregation clean and clearing out wrongdoers.
What a pile of absolute drivel.
this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.
there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.
nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.
Having looked at my last post on this thread I think one of man's greatest inventions is the spelling/grammar checker, and I really need to use one :-)
this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.
there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.
nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.
what a breath a fresh air to be free of watchtower.
now i can finally rant about the things i put up with that i'd never put up with now.. in no particular order:.
little kids in suits.
I could not stand the hypocrisy, such as elders who never speak to you at a meeting suddenly wanting to give you a shepherding call because they care for you so much. Strangely this caring often developed a week before the C.O. was visiting and disappeared the day after he left.
"the way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own, but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end.
now you will have peace for eternity.
" -- maleva, the wolf man.
Anytime I think about J.W. meetings I remember the quote from Madagascar 2.
"Sorry do you mind going back, this is 1st class, it's nothing personal it's just that we are better than you"
- King Julian
the needle has been stuck on the record for over 130 years - thanks to mr. russell and his successive cohorts:.
page 11, paragraph 19 - “as this system nears its end,....”.
page 13, paragraph 5 - “do my actions show that i truly believe that these are the last days and that the end of satan’s rule is near?”.
"A WORLD does not end every day! Not since the great flood of Noah’s time has a “world” or system of things for governing the affairs of all mankind passed out of existence. But now, by occurrence of every detail of the great sign Jesus gave, we know that we face the imminent end of the present world system"
- Watchtower 1st December 1952 (p709)
Just as others have said it is easier to get scared sheep to do what they are told.
ive asked my jw friends that 3 times and never got an answer.. and can someone explain the jw class system?
and or point me to info on it..
So it used to be thousands of people (All anointed on earth) then it became 7 (The GB) Somebody miscounted big time. So I would take any other numbers they come up with, with a large pinch of salt.
my jw wife, like all of us, was saddened by the senseless killings in nevada.
she said, "the shootings just shows how much we need god's kingdom.
" i replied, "yes if it was armageddon, jehovah wouldn't have left any survivors.
Imagine two non J.W. twins are crossing the street, they are the same in every way. One gets killed when struck by a car, he will be resurrected into a paradise. Five seconds later armageddon starts and God destroys the other twin, he is gone forever. Something is not right with that belief. Getting everlasting life would depend on who stepped into the road first! (Or second)
a friend of mine has contacts to a family with several circuit overseers and special pioneers.
they have good connections to bethel.. he told me that the latest rumor from bethel states that the cos should be abolished in their present form.
they have also recently begun to take cos back to bethel.. over the same channel i have already heard of the car fleet program and that the dos should be abolished.. has anyone else already heard of it?
I think what will happen is that the C.O. will still visit each congregation twice a year but he will do so invisibly. There will be lots of evidence of C.O. realities proving that he has actually visited the congregation, and of course hard cash will still be required, for his invisible upkeep.