Posts by cappytan

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Re: Experienced Attorneys and Paralegals Needed at Bethel

by pixel in

i thought we needed carpenters and plumbers in paradise...oh well... the hypocrisy.

to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: experienced attorneys and paralegals needed at bethel.

dear brothers:.

cappytan

I think after the way Barbara Anderson was treated/railroaded , any leaks or whistleblowers will be anonymous where it can't be traced or detected.

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JW's NOT identified by a symbol!!

by The Searcher in

*** km 9/74 p. 8 question box ***as jehovahs servants we.....................do not want to give others the impression that the tetragrammaton is the symbol of jehovahs witnesses as a whole.

we have no organizational symbol to identify ourselves but show that we are jehovahs christian witnesses by living in harmony with gods will.john 13:35.. don't you just love those "old" lights?.

cappytan

TTATTelder: They have come out in print with a different stance on "symbols" since?

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Rev 17:9 - Thoughts?

by leaving_quietly in

rev 17:9 describes something about the "woman", the harlot, babylon the great:.

here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in: the seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top.

and there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while.. i was dreaming about this verse last night, so i thought i'd look it up.

cappytan

I'm at the point right now that I don't know what to believe anymore.

To my born-in JW brain, Revelation - It's Grand Climax at Hand made a lot of sense.

Now that I question certain doctrines that have been so ingrained into my psyche (607, 1914), I don't know if I believe the "party line" on the Revelation interpretation.

I don't even know if I believe I'm living in the last days.

It's a very surreal and weird experience.

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1 Timothy 5:8 - Providing for one's household....materially or spiritually?

by cappytan in

the searcher brought this scripture up on another thread:.

(1 timothy 5:8) "certainly if anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.

" [disowned jehovah].

cappytan

I really had never heard this application until the last 3 or 4 years, personally. Maybe 5.

As a born-in, from my perspective that's kind of recent. But, I'm sure it could be that I've only noticed it recently. It could be that for years I never even paid attention to it's application.

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Re: Experienced Attorneys and Paralegals Needed at Bethel

by pixel in

i thought we needed carpenters and plumbers in paradise...oh well... the hypocrisy.

to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: experienced attorneys and paralegals needed at bethel.

dear brothers:.

cappytan

This is just getting plain ridiculous.

I worked in the legal field for years as a secretary. I was a transcriptionist, and eventually landed the title of Legal Secretary. A Legal Secretary was basically a Paralegal without a degree. In the office I worked for, you did almost everything a Paralegal did with a little more filing and transcription thrown in and a little less time spent on research.

However, in order to be a Lawyer or a Paralegal, you HAVE to have a college education!

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1 Timothy 5:8 - Providing for one's household....materially or spiritually?

by cappytan in

the searcher brought this scripture up on another thread:.

(1 timothy 5:8) "certainly if anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.

" [disowned jehovah].

cappytan

The Searcher brought this scripture up on another thread:

(1 Timothy 5:8) "Certainly if anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith." [disowned Jehovah]

I thought I'd make a new thread instead of highjacking that other one.

Did you know they're trying to apply this to spiritual matters now?

Brother on Platform: "Yes, we need to provide for our families materially. That's the reality of the world in which we live. But even more important than materially is providing for them spiritually! Do you think that Paul would put material things as a higher priority than spiritual matters? Of course not! So he was likely referring to providing for your household in a spiritual sense!"

Sheeple: "oooooooo.....ahhhhhhhhh....I see the light now! Monday morning I'm quitting my job and pioneering! Jehovah will provide!

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Watchtower doctrine: Judges 1:19 (God couldn't defeat the Iron Chariots)

by southwest in

this weeks assigned bible reading is judges 1-4. i have never noticed judges 1:19 before which reads in the nwt as:.

jehovah was with judah, and they took possession of the mountainous region, but they could not drive out the inhabitants of the plain,* because they had war chariots with iron scythes.

but in the kj as:.

cappytan

Additional Translations/Versions (for reference):

Byington: "and Jehovah was with Judah, and they took possession of the highland - for they were not able to dispossess the inhabitants of the vale, because they had iron chariots,"

American Standard Version: "And Jehovah was with Judah; and drove out the inhabitants of the hill-country; for he could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron."

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Just ask simple questions and make street witnesses move along

by OnTheWayOut in

you don't have to know much to talk to jw's and show them they don't want to really discuss the matters.they consider a discussion on the matter they are pushing to be "confrontational.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfw_txpmsj8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lqtadagucq.

cappytan

If I were Alex, I would invest in one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eyewear-Video-Voice-Recorder-HD-Mobile-Spy-Glasses-Camera-DV-DVR-1280-720-30fps-/261736621928

I would be interested in how they would react when they didn't realize he was recording.

(Probably not any differently, but I bet the mental gymnastics would go on longer.)

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Just ask simple questions and make street witnesses move along

by OnTheWayOut in

you don't have to know much to talk to jw's and show them they don't want to really discuss the matters.they consider a discussion on the matter they are pushing to be "confrontational.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfw_txpmsj8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lqtadagucq.

cappytan

stuckinarut2: That's exactly how I feel. It calls to mind Jesus' description of them being like "sheep thrown about without a shepherd."

These Dubs in this video are just pawns of a bunch of Pharisees...they're proverbial cannon fodder.

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Just ask simple questions and make street witnesses move along

by OnTheWayOut in

you don't have to know much to talk to jw's and show them they don't want to really discuss the matters.they consider a discussion on the matter they are pushing to be "confrontational.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfw_txpmsj8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lqtadagucq.

cappytan

It is sad. (Disclaimer: only watched the first video, figured the second was more of the same.)

Back in the day, I would relish the opportunity to have an intellectual discussion such as this.

What the kid got wrong is that he's obviously not trained properly. First, you find common ground. Find out what the householder believes. Then, talk about what you believe.

When the householder didn't seem interested in learning more about what you believe, you can then say, "Well, isn't it wonderful we live in a time where we can have discussions like this?"

Depending on the reaction of the householder, I would then say, "No one has all the answers. I personally believe the Bible has satisfying answers and provides comfort for a lot of these existential questions." I would then read a comforting passage or a passage that showed the Bible contained sound advice on living life.

I then would thank the householder for his time, if he was still railing on about evolution, and offer to call back at another time to have another in depth discussion.

What I was taught in Pioneer School is that it's okay to have an intellectual spiritual discussion. Obviously, if the person is just being argumentative or aggressive, the direction was to not waste your time. But in the case of the first video, it seemed to me that there was a genuine interchange of ideas there, and that poor, ill-equipped bloke looked like a deer in the headlights.