Posts by cappytan

Landing on the moon is extraordinary. There is a wide range of empirical evidence to support that man landed on the moon. An extraordinary amount of evidence.

As extraordinary as the claim of man landing on the moon is, an even more extraordinary claim is that it was all faked. The hypothesis that the landing was faked has been thoroughly debunked as false. There is no evidence to support ANY of the claims, much less anything coming close to the definition of "extraordinary."

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

cappytan

Regarding the flag waving: all the motion in this video can easily be explained by inertia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxEV6H7Shpc

Here is a video thoroughly debunking the flag waving myth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBCfuKs9i8

579

Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

cappytan

Viviane:

Just the facts, ma'am.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

cappytan

I have examined the supposed "evidence" for the conspiracy theories about the landing.

There is no plausible evidence to suggest that man did not land on the moon.

Especially the blowing flag argument.

Air resistance is not needed to see a flag "flutter." All that is needed is the motion of the astronauts setting up the flag. It's a simple concept called "inertia."

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What JW.ORG might look like if a Bethelite went rogue - (if only this would really happen.)

by cappytan in

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LDS church becoming more transparent says NPR

by StarTrekAngel in

that was what the radio said yesterday.

it prompted me to look for the topic.

the following link speaks of the same issue but is not from npr.

cappytan

LDS church becoming more transparent says NPR

Does that mean more people will be able to see through their crazy teachings now?

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Rodney Spinks Lies...

by iwasblind in

hi guys.

i actually have had dealings with rod and found him to be a very reasonable and "non-robotic" man in the past.. i know it should not surprise me, but i was disappointed to hear his lies and half-truths.. they know their stuff and are not easily led, but he tried to lead the royal commission to believe that 2 people could be involved in investigating a claim - which is wrong.. his lack of memory on what parts of the judicial process are biblical - hello - none are.

there are no scriptures that backup the use of 3 men, a body of elders, cutting people off from family and friends, restrictions, etc.. he also lied about the gb being involved in policy creation and changes.. his statement that in all cases, elders are told to inform parents that they can go to the authorities and get the full support of the congregation is not verifiable.

cappytan

They know their stuff and are not easily led, but he tried to lead the Royal Commission to believe that 2 people could be involved in investigating a claim - which is wrong.

For the record, Spinks is correct on this point. It is routine for a body of elders to form an investigating committee, usually comprised of 2 elders, to investigate a claim of wrongdoing and determine if a Judicial Committee needs to be formed.

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Exposing one's identity. When?

by kairos in

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i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

( "reaching out", so to speak ).

i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

cappytan

kairos: when I was learning things about the truth that I didn't want to believe, but I could not ignore, I was suicidal too.

I think it's a normal reaction for someone that has been told that this world is so bad, controlled by Satan, that death forgives you of your sins, and that paradise is waiting for you.

I saw these problems in the organization, and wanted a shortcut to the new system so I didn't have to be so torn up about it.

To survive, I had to let go of that hope.

I hope your wife gets through this. I'm sorry, man.

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where there was a conflict between the Bible and science, the Bible would prevail, because all scripture is "inspired by God"

by freemindfade in

thought i would put this in its own thread.

it another embarrassing statement from the rc (royal commission not regional convention lol).

it's not even one about abuse, its about the jw's stance on science and the bible.

cappytan

Aside from the fact that women were judges in the Hebrew Scriptures, Junia is named as an apostle in Acts although the JW bible turns a feminine proper noun into a neuter.

Not only that, but later in the verse where Junia is referred to (Rom. 16:7) the NWT uses the phrase "...who are men well-known..." No other Bible versions or translations that I can find online place the word "men" in that phrase.

New International Version

Greet Andronicus and Junia, my fellow Jews who have been in prison with me. They are outstanding among the apostles, and they were in Christ before I was.

New Living Translation

Greet Andronicus and Junia, my fellow Jews, who were in prison with me. They are highly respected among the apostles and became followers of Christ before I did.

English Standard Version

Greet Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners. They are well known to the apostles, and they were in Christ before me.

New American Standard Bible

Greet Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners, who are outstanding among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

King James Bible

Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Holman Christian Standard Bible

Greet Andronicus and Junia, my fellow countrymen and fellow prisoners. They are noteworthy in the eyes of the apostles, and they were also in Christ before me.

International Standard Version

Greet Andronicus and Junia, my fellow Jews who are in prison with me and are prominent among the apostles. They belonged to the Messiah before I did.

NET Bible

Greet Andronicus and Junia, my compatriots and my fellow prisoners. They are well known to the apostles, and they were in Christ before me.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English

Invoke the peace of Andronicus and of Junia, my relatives who were captives with me and were known by The Apostles and they were in The Messiah before me.

GOD'S WORD® Translation

Greet Andronicus and Junia, who are Jewish by birth like me. They are prisoners like me and are prominent among the apostles. They also were Christians before I was.

Jubilee Bible 2000

Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

King James 2000 Bible

Greet Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

American King James Version

Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

American Standard Version

Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also have been in Christ before me.

Douay-Rheims Bible

Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and fellow prisoners: who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Darby Bible Translation

Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and fellow-captives, who are of note among the apostles; who were also in Christ before me.

English Revised Version

Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also have been in Christ before me.

Webster's Bible Translation

Salute Andronicus and Junia my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Weymouth New Testament

and to Andronicus and Junia, my countrymen, who once shared my imprisonment. They are of note among the Apostles, and are Christians of longer standing than myself.

World English Bible

Greet Andronicus and Junia, my relatives and my fellow prisoners, who are notable among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Young's Literal Translation

salute Andronicus and Junias, my kindred, and my fellow-captives, who are of note among the apostles, who also have been in Christ before me.