Posts by cappytan

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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

by StarTrekAngel in

i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

cappytan

not the belief itself - you've not said which beliefs deserve respect and which don't.

The ones that have no evidence to back them up and are batshit crazy, of course.

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j-dubs aint easy to talk to and harder to like...they'd rather give you a tract than say gesundheit...saturday morning, instead of cartoons,xxxxits the watchtower brought to your door...if you say youre not interested, youre outta luck;xxxxtheyll be back next week offering more.. mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be j-dubs...dont let em get baptized at seven years old,xxxxor take em out knockin on doors in the cold.mamas, dont let your babies grow up to be j-dubs...theyll never quite manage to think for themselves,xxxxjust know how to do what theyre told... j-dubs might not smoke weed or watch r-rated movies...theyd rather stay home than go drinking on saturday night...thats all fine and dandy if youre eighty-six,xxxxand waiting, one foot in the grave...but a kid needs some fun in his life while hes young,xxxxstead of being a watchtower slave.. mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be j-dubs...dont let em be judged by a self-righteous putz,xxxxteach em to stand up show they got guts...mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be j-dubs...pretty sure they would rather be shoveling shit,xxxxthen have pedophiles groping their butts.. oh, mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be j-dubs...let em date pretty girls that they know from school,xxxxcollegell teach em theyre nobodys fool.yes, mamas, if you keep your babies from growin up j-dubs...theyll be thankin you all through the rest of your life;xxxxhell, they might even think that youre cool..

cappytan

I think it works. Someone should download the karaoke track and re-record the lyrics.

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Cart witnessing! Dose this mean more accessibility to apostates?

by joe134cd in

i don't know if this has been talked about before but do you think that cart witnessing has made the r&f more accessible to apostates.

why i say this is because if you think of the d2d work the only way that i could make contact with a r&f member would be if they knocked on my door or i was fortunate enough to see them walking down the road, stopped them and began talking.

if it was known that i was an apostate my address would be recorded and no further visits made.. however with the carts it is a completely different story, and it is much harder to walk away particularly in a busy street in the full view of the public.

cappytan

We should publish a monthly list of suggested presentations and title the publication "Our Kingdumb Ministry."

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I bought property, not that far from Watchtower land in Warrwick NY.

by Dunedain in

i wound up buying 26 acres of land in upstate ny, a few years ago.

i bought it strictly as an investment, due to rumors of there going to be huge development of the area.

it seems like casinos, walmart, and tons of building have started in the area, or are now breaking ground, since i purchased it.

cappytan

Honestly I loved liver and onions day.

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I could sue the WTBTS

by shattered_origins in

ever since my sister gave me an " awakening," i have been somewhat obsessed with the failings of the religion i was born into.

i am especially outraged at the article i read about how the elders are supposed to deal with accusations of sexual abuse (jwfacts.com/watchtower/paedophelia.php).

i myself suffered sexual and emotional abuse from a family "friend"/ministerial servant in a neighboring congregation.

cappytan

I don't understand this part - how can they think he was innocent if he was actually convicted of the crime?

I can see him claiming he was innocent, however telling the elders that the lawyer recommended he plead guilty to avoid jail time.

I'm not saying it's right. But it seems a likely scenario.

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Your thoughts on Halloween , yes, no or maybe ?

by Finkelstein in

well its that time again when the ghouls come out to play.

i personally think halloween is a bit irresponsible and inappropriate from a sociological perspective.. there's something about the intent of frightening young impressionable children minds with frightening objests.

and feeding them candy which most likely cause tooth decay and stomachs is irresponsible activity conducted by adults.

cappytan

Fink, yes, I do get where you're coming from. I feel, though, that one can have fun on the holiday without being around those negative aspects.

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Give me 5 minutes to explain...

by pixel in

jw
friends

i keep thinking about the time i will "come out" and tell my wife about this sick cult.

i don't know when that day will come, but knowing me i will seat down with her and ask her for 5 minutes to explain to her why we as a family has to get out.

my question is: what will you tell somebody in 5 minutes, that will convince that perdon that this is not a good religion to follow and that we have been deceived?.

cappytan

I think it depends about the person you're talking to.

For me, doctrinal stuff probably would have worked best. (It's what eventually woke me up.)

For my wife, it was the child abuse things she couldn't excuse. Specifically that branch representative stating that the congregation's "protection was a spiritual protection" not a physical one.

I think it's different for everyone.

Perhaps lay some groundwork before you ask her for the 5 minutes. Innocently ask her, "If there was one thing you could change about Jehovah's Witnesses, what would it be?" That might give you a clue as to what part of the organization's policies she's sensitive to. In fact, she may even ask YOU what you wish could change. It might open up a good dialog.

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Aus Bethel reducing numbers dramatically.

by joey jojo in

sorry if this is old news but just heard that there will only be about 75 people left at sydney bethel after layoffs.

cappytan

Dannnng. That's a huge cut.

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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

by Tenacious in

i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?

cappytan

Why are we not then, all of us going over to the a birthers forum and combating that?

Because we're here. I was using Birthers as an example. What these theists are doing is the same as if you asked a Birther for proof of their claims and then they said, "You prove that we're wrong."

When someone makes an extraordinary claim, it shouldn't be verboten to ask them to back it up with some evidence.

Saying that there is a being outside of the space time continuum that is all powerful and that he created the universe in which we live and everything in it is an even more extraordinary claim than what the birthers are asserting.

Why do people get so upset when you ask them for proof of that claim?

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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

by Tenacious in

i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?

cappytan

If you think a certain topic is stupid or has no evidence or foundation, simply stay out of it.

How about when someone says, "Obama is a Kenyan! His birth certificate is fake!"

That topic is stupid and has no evidence or foundation to support it. But we should "simply stay out of it?" We should let this person continue to spew beliefs that are harmful and not based on evidence continue to do so and possibly mislead others? We should let them go unchallenged without demanding evidence for their extraordinary claim?

Hell no. I will not stand by and I will not stay out of it.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke (supposedly)