"would you do absolutely anything which the governing body instructed you to do?
for example, sell your home and possessions, move in with another witness, and send all your money to the org?".
if 'no', they're showing that they will pick and choose which org directives they will follow.
I made this mistake with my wife at one point - asking if she'd take a cyanide pill if the GB somehow managed to cherry pick some scriptures to justify it and she said she would.
Perfect opportunity to ask, "So, if that's true, how is it not a cult?"
dear anthony morris, iii:.
i wanted to send you a note of "thanks" on this special day.. why is this day special, you may ask?
one year ago today, you, tony, woke me up to the fact that the governing body could not have jehovah's blessing or direction.. last year, on november 8th & 9th, 2014, the united states branch visit was broadcast to over 1,000,000 jehovah's witnesses across the country.. as i sat at the kingdom hall listening to the "historic occasion," i was ignoring certain doubts that had surfaced in the few months prior.
I wanna thank all of you for your amazing comments and support over the past year. I don't think I could have stayed sane or done it without the help from y'all.
Yes, I am one fortunate sonuvagun in that I got my wife and kids out. The kids are young, so the indoctrination isn't strong yet. We celebrated my daughter's birthday last month and took them Trick-or-Treating for the first time.
Thanks!
- Sean
dear anthony morris, iii:.
i wanted to send you a note of "thanks" on this special day.. why is this day special, you may ask?
one year ago today, you, tony, woke me up to the fact that the governing body could not have jehovah's blessing or direction.. last year, on november 8th & 9th, 2014, the united states branch visit was broadcast to over 1,000,000 jehovah's witnesses across the country.. as i sat at the kingdom hall listening to the "historic occasion," i was ignoring certain doubts that had surfaced in the few months prior.
What of the Scotsmen?
Sexayyyy.
dear anthony morris, iii:.
i wanted to send you a note of "thanks" on this special day.. why is this day special, you may ask?
one year ago today, you, tony, woke me up to the fact that the governing body could not have jehovah's blessing or direction.. last year, on november 8th & 9th, 2014, the united states branch visit was broadcast to over 1,000,000 jehovah's witnesses across the country.. as i sat at the kingdom hall listening to the "historic occasion," i was ignoring certain doubts that had surfaced in the few months prior.
What would he say about this freshly baptized brother?
Inappropriate.
wanted to say hi.
i've been lurking for a long time.
i also spend time on other forums.
Welcome! Just read your post today on that other cesspool of apostasy. It was very happifying! Congratulations on waking your kids up!
- Sean
it's true, leaving the organization does not mean you leave god.
as someone who was raised in the "truth" i always heard the messaging that if you leave the organization you leave god and lose his protection.
after disassociating myself, i even believed that and began on a path of self-destructive behaviour as i was leaving behind every relationship i had ever known and very ill equipped to live in the "real world" growing up, i always felt there was a higher power and our purpose was more than living a few decades.
ok, specifically he was talking about hitler.
apparently he was asked whether, if he could go back in time, he would kill him when he was a baby.. and he said "hell yeah !".
but still wtf?
...inability to answer simple questions rationally.
It's an irrational and dumb question to begin with.
And Jeb Bush is an idiot for even dignifying it with an answer.
deity of jesus.
the final part of our discussion took us back to the very beginning where he was asking my christian friend a question about the trinity.
i wasn't convinced that david received an answer that was satisfying [essentially its a mystery, god is too big to understand etc..] i wanted to talk about that more.
1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).
2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.
this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.
"...spewing venom..."
Pointing out falsehoods and speaking truth is NOT spewing venom.
it's true, leaving the organization does not mean you leave god.
as someone who was raised in the "truth" i always heard the messaging that if you leave the organization you leave god and lose his protection.
after disassociating myself, i even believed that and began on a path of self-destructive behaviour as i was leaving behind every relationship i had ever known and very ill equipped to live in the "real world" growing up, i always felt there was a higher power and our purpose was more than living a few decades.
