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  why jw's commit suicide?

  by notalone in

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  we all know the rate of suicide is high among jw's.

  my question is this- was there some subliminal messages that encourage this.

  i was a born in and my entire life i would have these thoughts that could come out of nowhere,"kill yourself.

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  We all know the rate of suicide is high among jw's. My question is this- was there some subliminal messages that encourage this. I was a born in and my entire life I would have these thoughts that could come out of nowhere,"kill yourself." I have worked hard and they are far less frequent but every once in a while it would hit. I have professionals that I can go to, that is not what I am seeking. I just have this nagging thought that I am missing something. I grew up with the pink great teacher book, in fact I had some stories memorized. My mother would often add to story 7, 'obedience protects you' that the ones who stayed ate their children and that if I had lived in ancient Israel that I would have been stoned to death.I am just wondering if anyone else may be aware of something else.
  
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  Did a current or ex-JW help you to awaken?

  by TweetieBird in

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  was there something that was said to you that got the wheel turning in your brain, that caused you to start waking up to ttatt, either by a jw or ex-jw that you didn't know was awake?

  i'm trying to think of things i can say or ask of my current family members still in that may help them to start seeing the real truth about the organization.

  they think we're still in..

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  The elders were fantastic!They lied repeatedly and in fact one said, " so,he lied,everyone lies." ( by the way I am not a lair and work hard to be honest) Then they hid a pedophile and threatened to remove my family's implied invitation for pursuing legal steps to protect ourselves from a member of the cong. I don't know how long it would have taken me to wake up if it wasn't for my elders..
  
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  Help/Advice on Birthday Present

  by Phizzy in

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  i have a very xjw type problem, i am invited to my cousin's 70th birthday party, and really don't know what to buy him.. i only met him a couple of months ago, as my jw parents never encouraged the non-jw side of the family, so i don't know much about him, except that he is retired and his hobby is sailing his boat.. i don't have contact details for his kids etc to ask them for ideas, so could you come up with something please ?

  not too extravagant, i am a poor pensioner !

  but, it is his 70th.. thanks in advance for any tips !.

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  I love to check out things on etsy. Just search for sailing, or boats. Amazon and ebay are also good, but ebay can take a while.
  
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  Study with an Elder - propose a question.

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello there.. as some of you might remember i am keeping my facade up by "studying" with an elder.

  this study however is more of a session where i put hard questions about the org, doctrine and so on, on the table.

  the time has come for the next session in a couple of days, and i have quite frankly lost the will to keep digging up things that just shouldn't be happening.

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  I personally like to point out that at no place is Adam or Eve spoken of as having been perfect (heb- tamim) but at Gen 6:9 this word is used to reference Noah. Noah died, yet God declared him righteous or perfect (tamim) . At Hebrews 5:9 it states that Jesus became perfect ( teleiosai) not that he was born perfect.So according to the Bible Adam did not have a perfect (tamim) life So how is it that Christ offering his perfect life could bring back mankind while Noah's perfect life did not?
  
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  My parents found out

  by BlackWolf in

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  2. friends

  so in my last post i talked about how i had told my younger siblings how i didn't plan to get baptized or ever be a witness.

  i thought i could trust them but i guess i was wrong, they're just kids after all.

  my oldest brother (who's 11) told on me today.

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  Your parents think this is 'just a phase' you are going through.They know if they can keep you enmeshed just a couple more years they have you. You are at that age when young people go into the world and find who they want to be. In college everyone will be new. There will be friendships, ideas and then once you have a degree the ability to really build a life that is not dependent on them and the org. If they can keep you under their 'protection' and control your environment,they will undermine your resolve and honesty and replace it with deceit and no self respect. This is a war for you soul, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. In witness minds all is fair in 'theocratic war' and they are going to use everything at their disposal to control you.But here's the thing you have all the power it is your decision. All you have to do is say to yourself ,' This is who I am and I will not compromise my integrity. I have to live with myself.' Then live
  
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  For all in the USA - Happy 4th of July!

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's nice to say that:).

  i am looking forward to a 4th party with "worldly people" and fireworks!.

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  This year we are going to go out and enjoy our neighbors over the top displays.( quieter and cheaper with no crowds)
  
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  Last Memorial Experiences

  by NoviceLocs14 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'll share mine first.... i had never missed a memorial for at least a quarter of a century of my life.

  i was kind of raised to believe that missing the memorial was a sin in itself.. by 2013 memorial season, i was missing most of my meetings (even though i was still technically part of my foreign language congregation), and i had just come off the pioneer list.

  i still made plans to attend the memorial (god forbid if i missed that lol).. i knew that typically our memorials were around 9 pm, since we usually got last priority (being a foreign language hall and all).

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  2015- My husband had just had a medical emergency and suddenly lost part of his sight in one eye which had alerted the Doctors that he was going to have to have open heart surgery. We rushed there at the last minute. He was only in his forties and he had been raised in this Hall. Everyone could care less. We woke up by that fall.

  2016- We found out the memorial was a black mass. We told our friends we were not going to tell anyone where we were going as the elders were hounding our friends for information about us. We held a commemoration of the last supper the night before Passover and we all partook.
  
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  JW harassment

  by blasphemous.mouse in

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  is there a way to have a jw who will not leave someone alone spammed with anti-cult information and anti-jw information?

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  That would only confirm how 'mentally diseased' apostates are and would set off the 'bunker' mentality. You could have a lawyer send a letter to this person stating that you wish no further contact and that if it continues you will be filing stalking charges. You could also ask the lawyer if this issue involves religion it would be considered a hate crime in the area in which you live?
  
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  My parents found out

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so in my last post i talked about how i had told my younger siblings how i didn't plan to get baptized or ever be a witness.

  i thought i could trust them but i guess i was wrong, they're just kids after all.

  my oldest brother (who's 11) told on me today.

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  My family is going through some very intensive counseling right now. The one thing that keeps coming up is setting boundaries and not staying in relationships with those who will not accept your right to set them. The longer you allow someone to ignore your boundaries the less you will think of yourself. You teach others how to treat you. If you say ' I do not want to be a witness. I do not share these beliefs' You are setting a boundary. Their response shows they do not respect you. Your response to them tells them who you are and how you will be treated. Break the control. Once you turn 18 you can legally decide if this behavior is acceptable. Is it? If you don't value who you are and don't feel you have the right to free will, to choose your own life, then no one else will. I know this is difficult. You have been conditioned to capitulate.You have been conditioned to fear. This will always bring you under the control of others. This is your decision and yours alone, and this will effect the direction of your life,the person you are and will be. Think carefully. Choose don't react. Stay calm. Be the adult. This is your life.
  
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  What woke you up?

  by MrRoboto in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for me, i think it was just the right time as i was starting to wake up on other fronts as well (anyone who had went through these will know what i mean).

  but it started when i was looking for what info goes on a publisher card, which led to me reading one person's story (ex bethelite) which was pretty crazy to an all-in jw but who trusts those apostates...?.

  then i started watching videos on cults, as if my subconscious was trying to tell my concord mind something... when i saw a particular one about a young man in lds getting ready to start their 2 year preaching campaign, including a school, social activities etc, i realized that i couldn't tell the difference between the folks of this mormon cult and the jws (save for some religious differences) .

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  I was totally in and a big researcher of the publications. Because my family had been in so long I had access growing up to all the older publications. I was quite good at calling out things by using these publications and the Bible. I started finding myself arguing with the articles. I started blacking out things that weren't right and writing the biblical defense on the side. My family was getting a little fed up with me. Then our family had the JW molestation experience. We had witnesses, medical evidence and multiple victims and were told we cpuld tell no one, not to go to the police and had to continue in the congregation with this person. When we got a restraining order and called the police when the elders helped this person violate it we were told our invitation to attend the hall was going to be rescinded.While looking up this term online I found Beorean pickets, read everything and then I dared to start coming to this site where I found out about ARC and watched it live. There is nothing that will ever cause me or my family to return.