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  It could be worse ;-)

  by happysunshine in

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  the first crusade is launched by pope urban ii.

  his goal is to aid byzantine christians in driving the seldjuk turks from asia minor, in the (futile) hope that the eastern church would acknowledge the supremacy of rome and christendom would be united.

  the poor were particularly susceptible to the pope's call for an army.

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  The First Crusade is launched by Pope Urban II. His goal is to aid Byzantine Christians in driving the Seldjuk Turks from Asia Minor, in the (futile) hope that the eastern Church would acknowledge the supremacy of Rome and Christendom would be united. The poor were particularly susceptible to the Pope's call for an army. Most of those who joined the Crusade perished on the long journey across Europe. Those whose survived the trip were known as "Tafurs." Stories describe them as barefoot, wearing sackcloth, covered in sores and filth, living on roots and grass and sometimes the roasted corpses of their enemies. Too poor to afford swords, they fought with clubs, pointed stick, knives, shovels, and hoes. The Muslims were said to have been terrified of the Tafurs, and their own leaders unable to control them. As they move across Europe, they attack and kill Jews in large numbers, believing them enemies of Christianity.
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  Apocalypse!

  by happysunshine in

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  this site is really good for info on apocalyptic thinking-.

  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/.

  hope it helps someone.

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  This site is really good for info on apocalyptic thinking-

  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/

  Hope it helps someone. -J
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  Hey ... we got a real nut here !

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just got this from a real well informed, clear thinking, "sister" (?

  (about the http://www.watchtower-victims.org/ site)

  --- cynthia apperson --- [email protected] --- earthlink: the #1 provider of the real internet.

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  Simon-

  How do you deal with the sheer volume of garbage that must come your way?
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  NAMING NAMES!

  by happysunshine in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  has anyone ever started a section just for legal cases/ possible legal cases?

  or how about naming all the corrupt/ horror story jws you ever knew?

  is it possible to get sued for telling your experiences and naming names - even if its not about criminal activity?

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  Thanks for the info Angharad! I'll stick to non-criminal names on this site. Anybody else want to list their experiences and the real jerks connected to them here?
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  UN involvement: why?

  by happysunshine in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was blown away reading about the un and the 'library card' excuse.

  but i have a question: why did they join?

  was it to lift restrictions in banned countries?

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  Thanks for the links hawkaw! You did a lot of work. I'll see when I have time to mull through the archives.

  I'm going to surmise that the WTS's ultimate defense will be that it was the lesser of two evils. Joining allowed many more to 'hear the message' and eased persecution. Claiming divine guidance is the cure-all. It's an un-falsafiable defense, AKA fairy tale. It's nice to have that deux ex machina card in your back pocket for arguments. However, this brings up questions like, "Well couldn't a special pioneer or one of the anointed salute the flag or some other 'formality' so as to more effectively spread the word in some situations? Not to mention the massacres based on "no party card policy".

  Any comments? -J
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  NAMING NAMES!

  by happysunshine in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  has anyone ever started a section just for legal cases/ possible legal cases?

  or how about naming all the corrupt/ horror story jws you ever knew?

  is it possible to get sued for telling your experiences and naming names - even if its not about criminal activity?

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  Hmmm-

  Dutchie: I'm afraid they may go no farther than that for many, just stories. If there is a name(s) then its possible to verify. On the internet its possible for anyone to print anything, including half-truths, complete fabrications, and Troll-ramblings. But thanks for the interest in the stories anyway ;-).

  Swan: That's a possibility, but I believe the greater good generated from a database of dangerous and/or manipulative people would be worth it. Besides, if it's true, the person will have a chance to defend themselves properly. A swirling mass of stories that may never get clarity or answers or conformation seems less desirable. I can't quite see someone 'mooting' the WTS information here because of their own personal unethical behavior in the past. Someone might return to the cult because of their own bad behaviour? Those seem like seperate issues. But thanks for the comments Tammy!

  This is really helping me clarify things. Any comments?
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  SPEAK OUT! about emotional blackmail....

  by professor in

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  2. friends

  the watchtower society goons, in a power drunken stupor, are once again caught with their pants down, this time exposing their diabolical plan to undermine and exploit natural family love.. audacious, even for the watchtower, the message of the august 2002 kingdom ministry rings loud and clear to the rank and file: emotional blackmail can force your family back to us!

  "after hearing a talk at a circuit assembly, a brother and his fleshly sister realized that they needed to make adjustments in the way they treated their mother, who lived elsewhere and who had been disfellowshipped for six years.

  immediately after the assembly, the man called his mother, and after assuring her of their love, he explained that they could no longer talk to her unless there were important family matters requiring contact.

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  YICK! That km and web site change make me sick! I often wonder what influences the policy changes. Writting dept. staff member has a Bad Hair Day?
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  UN involvement: why?

  by happysunshine in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was blown away reading about the un and the 'library card' excuse.

  but i have a question: why did they join?

  was it to lift restrictions in banned countries?

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  happysunshine

  I was blown away reading about the UN and the 'library card' excuse. But I have a question: Why did they join? Was it to lift restrictions in banned countries? Thanks- J
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  NAMING NAMES!

  by happysunshine in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  has anyone ever started a section just for legal cases/ possible legal cases?

  or how about naming all the corrupt/ horror story jws you ever knew?

  is it possible to get sued for telling your experiences and naming names - even if its not about criminal activity?

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  They're all true! I just wondered if there was any legal precedents/risks/or comments/ideas. Not only would it be a good resource for people who would otherwise never know the histories of sorted individuals, but a great way to vent ;-). Anyone?
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  Wayon brothers are JW's

  by breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are the wayons still considered jw's?

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  happysunshine

  Where did you hear that?