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  THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!!!

  by Englishman in

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  having had a week away from home, i'm astonished at the way some posters have started to behave.

  this site seems suddenly to be full of vitriol.. now i don't pretend to be every one's favourite pussy cat, and i will always be as outspoken as i choose to be, but i do not attack people personally, i only attack what they believe if i am convinced that their beliefs are anti-social or detrimental.

  i don't attack the person propagating that belief.

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  nogs

  UNBELIEABLE!!!!!!

  you took what I said out of context, I responded to your seemingly heartless response to someone who clearly needs help. That was the way I saw your response, you don't know Azzazel, so how can you say that she is lying, You know this topic is uncalled for, you know you took me out of context, and as for a personal attack you know you are wrong, believe me if I was going to personally attack you you'd know about it big time. I think that you should give ppl the benefit of the doubt otherwise you are just as bad as the elders in the JW org, disfellowshipping without even really listening or even believing the person who came here for help, SHE CAME HERE FOR HELP, and those who made an attack on her should be ashamed!!!!

  Nogs
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  new, nowhere to turn, ashamed & afraid

  by azzazel in

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  hullo everybody i'm new here, even though i've been lurking now for several months.. i have to say how afraid i am to post, afraid and ashamed but i feel if i dont tell my story, i honestly dont know what may happen to me or my children if they lose me, right now i feel like i've got nowhere left to turn and have my doubts about this place as well.. i know my story will shock you but i cant keep it in any longer.

  i am recently disfellowshipped for immorality, the subject of a kingdom hall witch -hunt and subsequent congregational humiliation, .

  during the process of the judicial committee meetings and proceedings no consideration was given to my real human circumstances nor to the spirit of survival nor human nature nor that of a mother seeking to protect her children from lack of basic fundamentals such as food, shelter and clothing.

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  nogs

  Englishman, would you be down the M5 to help me??? How sweet, where are you from??? I don't think I know you, so tell me abit more about yourself

  Naomi
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  new, nowhere to turn, ashamed & afraid

  by azzazel in

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  hullo everybody i'm new here, even though i've been lurking now for several months.. i have to say how afraid i am to post, afraid and ashamed but i feel if i dont tell my story, i honestly dont know what may happen to me or my children if they lose me, right now i feel like i've got nowhere left to turn and have my doubts about this place as well.. i know my story will shock you but i cant keep it in any longer.

  i am recently disfellowshipped for immorality, the subject of a kingdom hall witch -hunt and subsequent congregational humiliation, .

  during the process of the judicial committee meetings and proceedings no consideration was given to my real human circumstances nor to the spirit of survival nor human nature nor that of a mother seeking to protect her children from lack of basic fundamentals such as food, shelter and clothing.

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  nogs

  well thats a good attitude considering she came on here for help, what would you believe englishman, a life story perhaps in the vein of Enid Blyton???

  You truly are an heartless curd, Englishman

  Naomi
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  new, nowhere to turn, ashamed & afraid

  by azzazel in

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  hullo everybody i'm new here, even though i've been lurking now for several months.. i have to say how afraid i am to post, afraid and ashamed but i feel if i dont tell my story, i honestly dont know what may happen to me or my children if they lose me, right now i feel like i've got nowhere left to turn and have my doubts about this place as well.. i know my story will shock you but i cant keep it in any longer.

  i am recently disfellowshipped for immorality, the subject of a kingdom hall witch -hunt and subsequent congregational humiliation, .

  during the process of the judicial committee meetings and proceedings no consideration was given to my real human circumstances nor to the spirit of survival nor human nature nor that of a mother seeking to protect her children from lack of basic fundamentals such as food, shelter and clothing.

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  nogs

  Are you still reading the posts on the computer Azzell?
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  new, nowhere to turn, ashamed & afraid

  by azzazel in

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  hullo everybody i'm new here, even though i've been lurking now for several months.. i have to say how afraid i am to post, afraid and ashamed but i feel if i dont tell my story, i honestly dont know what may happen to me or my children if they lose me, right now i feel like i've got nowhere left to turn and have my doubts about this place as well.. i know my story will shock you but i cant keep it in any longer.

  i am recently disfellowshipped for immorality, the subject of a kingdom hall witch -hunt and subsequent congregational humiliation, .

  during the process of the judicial committee meetings and proceedings no consideration was given to my real human circumstances nor to the spirit of survival nor human nature nor that of a mother seeking to protect her children from lack of basic fundamentals such as food, shelter and clothing.

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  I just read the rest and I do think the others where harsh, sometimes though how we write things come across wrong. I can see why you would go into prostitution, to help put food on the table to feed your babies. When you say you were on income support, does that mean you are from Britain???? I too spent 5 years living in a cold council house on income support, the toughest time of my life. I lived in a city called Hull, were there is a high unemployment. I took out a 10 thausand pound loan out and moved to Devon were their is low unemployment. I too had no job experience having never worked before, I had no Qualifications either. I got a part-time job in a department store, then a job in a call center then a stroke of luck I now work for a bank in research, you see will I worked I did day classes at a local college to give me computer skills. I have a six year old and whist i was woking at the department store, I applyed for working families tax credit and the pay for most of the childcare. That is always an option for you if you want to get out of prostitution. I don't think you will make as much money, infact you will suffer for a while but I fear if you continue your depression will get worse and you might do something silly and those delightful babies of yours will be orphaned.

  Reply and let me know what you think of my thoughts
  Naomi
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  new, nowhere to turn, ashamed & afraid

  by azzazel in

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  hullo everybody i'm new here, even though i've been lurking now for several months.. i have to say how afraid i am to post, afraid and ashamed but i feel if i dont tell my story, i honestly dont know what may happen to me or my children if they lose me, right now i feel like i've got nowhere left to turn and have my doubts about this place as well.. i know my story will shock you but i cant keep it in any longer.

  i am recently disfellowshipped for immorality, the subject of a kingdom hall witch -hunt and subsequent congregational humiliation, .

  during the process of the judicial committee meetings and proceedings no consideration was given to my real human circumstances nor to the spirit of survival nor human nature nor that of a mother seeking to protect her children from lack of basic fundamentals such as food, shelter and clothing.

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  Azzazel,

  I haven't read all the posts just at the beginning, I missed this post but I feel for you. I too was unmarried when i had my child, and I too felt abandoned when I got baptised. My story is on the depression forum, it's called "depression and why JW's don't reconize it" I too felt that if I didn't leave I would kill myself, I didn't instead i moved miles away and started a new life. Read it and please get back to me.

  Naomi

  P.S Some people can't live in the coldness of the JW organization, I couldn't, doesn't make me gOD'S ENEMY OR ANYONE ELSES.
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  depression and why JW's don't reconize it

  by nogs in

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  well as you know unless you are an elders son or daughter generally jw's don't lift a finger to help all those ones feeling downtrodden and lonely.

  i felt like this from july 1994 to march 2000. i prayed to jehovah constantly for help to ease the loneliness, i begged the elders and even others.

  for a long time the only ones who would talk to me where the elderly ones(who i miss now since i left) i cried every night and felt after five years of being at meetings and feeling invisable (even though i was an auxillary pioneer) i decided that my life was worth fighting for.

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  I'm not sour but when someone talke down to me, even if there not aware of it, I'm going to respond aren't I. Look so what if you have had a raw deal, most of us have too. I suppose that you can blame it on Satan if you want to and wait on God to be your saviour. I think that personally, I want to live my life, fend for myself, I won't blame anyone else for my mistakes and the mistakes of others. Now I'm outta here I've stayed on this site longer than i wanted to really. I said my goodbyes and the others know that i am gone. so thats it. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall, Unmoveable. Bye every one, good luck to you all.
  Naomi
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  depression and why JW's don't reconize it

  by nogs in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  well as you know unless you are an elders son or daughter generally jw's don't lift a finger to help all those ones feeling downtrodden and lonely.

  i felt like this from july 1994 to march 2000. i prayed to jehovah constantly for help to ease the loneliness, i begged the elders and even others.

  for a long time the only ones who would talk to me where the elderly ones(who i miss now since i left) i cried every night and felt after five years of being at meetings and feeling invisable (even though i was an auxillary pioneer) i decided that my life was worth fighting for.

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  nogs

  I think that depression is an illness which is on the increase all the time and is a subject i am passionate about as it effects everyone once in there lives!!!

  Thinkers wife you have a unique way about you which i like.

  Pom why are you on this site???? What is your purpose in it. My purpose was to lay a few demons to rest which I have done, and i'm ready to go on, tell me what is your purpose??????
  Naomi
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  depression and why JW's don't reconize it

  by nogs in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  well as you know unless you are an elders son or daughter generally jw's don't lift a finger to help all those ones feeling downtrodden and lonely.

  i felt like this from july 1994 to march 2000. i prayed to jehovah constantly for help to ease the loneliness, i begged the elders and even others.

  for a long time the only ones who would talk to me where the elderly ones(who i miss now since i left) i cried every night and felt after five years of being at meetings and feeling invisable (even though i was an auxillary pioneer) i decided that my life was worth fighting for.

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  nogs

  EXCUSE ME???

  POM, YOU FEEL SORRY FOR ME???

  i THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. i WANTED YOU TO READ MY THREAD SO YOU CAN SEE HOW HAPPY i REALLY AM ALBEIT WITHOUT RELIGION OF ANY KIND. YOU SEE MY LIFE IS A LIFE NOW, AND i'LL TELL YOU NOW, YOU WOULDN'T BE "BASHING" ANYONE OR EVEN BE HERE IF YOU WERE HAPPY YOURSELF.
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  depression and why JW's don't reconize it

  by nogs in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  well as you know unless you are an elders son or daughter generally jw's don't lift a finger to help all those ones feeling downtrodden and lonely.

  i felt like this from july 1994 to march 2000. i prayed to jehovah constantly for help to ease the loneliness, i begged the elders and even others.

  for a long time the only ones who would talk to me where the elderly ones(who i miss now since i left) i cried every night and felt after five years of being at meetings and feeling invisable (even though i was an auxillary pioneer) i decided that my life was worth fighting for.

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  nogs

  send me it in a email if you want too
  [email protected]
  Naomi