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  Is Blood Thicker Dan Water

  by non_trias_theos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people in this place think that jws break up families.

  they say that since jws df unrepentant baptized members and insist on jw family members restricting association with df members that jws try to break up families.

  what do you think about this charge?.

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  non_trias_theos

  $$$Non, it is also true that you can be the best person in the world. Never drink, never fornicate, never do any evil thing and if you don't go from door to door then you aren't going to be saved.$$$

  What is wrong with going from door to door? Let say that a Christian's heart is brimming over with what she knows about God and Christ. Did not the Bible say that the mouth speaks from the heart's abundance? If you really feel something in your heart, do you keep it to yourself? Plus it is supposed to be a life-saving message.

  $$$As the the Faithful and Discreet Slave, you can be right if you want to be. It doesn't really matter to me who they are.$$$

  If it does not matter--why did you bring it up?

  $$$I just bet that this slave is not connected to the watchtower society in any way. Just because they say it does, does not make it so. In fact, I think I am the Faithful and Discreet Slave. Yeah. Why not? Yep, that's what I am. But I'm not selfish. You can be the Faithful Slave too, Non. In fact, we can call it a class so that it can include more people. Hey, lets round some people up and we can make them part of our class too? Whaddaya say?$$$

  You misunderstood what jw believe about the fds. Admit that you were wrong. And we do not need a bunch of faithful slave classes running around. One is enough.

  $$$ya, korah rebelled against moses, the "appointed by god", with "visible credentials" (miracles)......leader of israel.$$$

  Tell that to SYN and ARoarer, non already knows it.
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  Is Blood Thicker Dan Water

  by non_trias_theos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people in this place think that jws break up families.

  they say that since jws df unrepentant baptized members and insist on jw family members restricting association with df members that jws try to break up families.

  what do you think about this charge?.

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  non_trias_theos

  $$$Well, Non, surely you realize that the reason you no longer "sell" the literature is not because of altruistic reasons, but because the WTBTS was advised by the lawyers who run the organization that if they accepted money at the doors, they would have to pay taxes on that money. So now we just accept "contributions" for the "world wide preachinhg work." Slick, huh?$$$

  Non does not even ask for contributions. He received free and he gives free. So you know not what you say about non. He is altruistic.

  $$$Despite what you may preach, Non, the main message to be conveyed at the door has always been the same. If you don't become a Jehovah's Witnesses and go from door to door "giving away" literature, you are going to die at Armegeddon. Period. All that other stuff you say is just window dressing leading up to the big "A" warning.$$$

  One can go from door to door all he want. It don't mean he going to get life. You have misunderstood what jw say, if you believe that bunk. What about being ethical, moral and obeying the comamnds of God? You can preach all day but if you fornicate or get drunk day in and out, you ain't gonna git life.

  $$$Don't forget Non, when you get your magazines you make a "contribution" for them, so the watchtower has their money. I guess they don't really care what you do with them after that. If you can get "contributions" from the householder that's okay, but if not, well, just as long as they get paid...$$$

  I would love to see how the wt makes all this money off of magazines like the wt and ak. You people just do not know what time it is.

  And are you gonna admit you wrong about the jw understanding of the fds. Jws do not think that fds is governing body. You misunderstood, missy.
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  They Persecuted Me

  by non_trias_theos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jesus christ said these telling words.

  and he supplemented them by also saying that his followers would be persecuted as he was persecuted.

  jesus's disciples were persecuted in the first century by a bitter wave of roman persecution.

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  non_trias_theos

  This is non's last reponse to Will. Non does not warm to those who deliberately misrepresent his words.

  $$$non
  why when someone wants to stick up for what is right, expose deception, lies, cruelty towards God's innocent ones, do you cry foul, persecution against God, when the argument is clearly against men.$$$

  Non only cries foul when people lie about the Christian congregation and show hatred for God and his name. Non does not have a problem with legitimate criticisms of God's people.
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  They Persecuted Me

  by non_trias_theos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jesus christ said these telling words.

  and he supplemented them by also saying that his followers would be persecuted as he was persecuted.

  jesus's disciples were persecuted in the first century by a bitter wave of roman persecution.

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  non_trias_theos

  $$$

  Who wants to make friends with those who hate Jehovah?

  So non says it again, the WatchTower Bible & tract society is Jehovah his god.$$$

  What? Talk about taking someone's sattement out of context. Non worships Jehovah God and Him alone. Non cannot believe you would misrepresent so blatantly. Is former President Clinton any relation to you?
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  Is Blood Thicker Dan Water

  by non_trias_theos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people in this place think that jws break up families.

  they say that since jws df unrepentant baptized members and insist on jw family members restricting association with df members that jws try to break up families.

  what do you think about this charge?.

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  non_trias_theos

  $$$The real "religion" of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society cult is simply to spend as much time as possible in "field service" selling their literature.$$$

  Non does not sell literature. He gives it away in fs.

  $$$Everything they do is geared to that. Even your spiritual weakness of spiritual strength is judged by how much time you spend in field service. All of your problems will be solved if only you spend even more time in field service. They even have a weekly sales meeting so that you will be more effective selling their literature and seeking more people to recruit into the "publishing" work.$$$

  No one is dumb enough to believe that all problems are solved by fs. I do not believe that. But Jesus is the reason I go out in the ministry. He commanded his disciples to make disciples. Even if there was no command in the bible, non would still go from door to door teaching others about God, Christ and grace.

  $$$You accuse others of being brainwashed?$$$

  Many here are brainwahsed. Not all.

  $$$You use Bible scriptures to defend them? Its absolutely pitiful. You believe that the Governing Body is the Faithful and Discreet Slave mentioned in the Bible?$$$

  No. The fds is all of God's anointed on earth at any given time.

  $$$Why do you believe that?$$$

  I do not.
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  88

  Is Blood Thicker Dan Water

  by non_trias_theos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people in this place think that jws break up families.

  they say that since jws df unrepentant baptized members and insist on jw family members restricting association with df members that jws try to break up families.

  what do you think about this charge?.

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  non_trias_theos

  Christ's law is written in the hearts of christians. but it is also written in the Bible. Grace is not a license to sin. God clearly lays out his commands in the Bible.
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  They acted without 2 witnesses

  by Sirona in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i've only just been told of a case of suspected child abuse at the local hall.. the child (aged 4) was alone with the abuser.

  she told her mother, who told the elders.

  the elders and mother immediately informed the police, despite the fact that there was only one witness - the child.. then the elders proceeded to inform families in the congregation so that they can be on their guard.

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  non_trias_theos

  What if the brother is innocent? He may not be. If he is, though, his reputation could be ruined for nothing. Not enough details given to make a proper judgement.
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  Is Blood Thicker Dan Water

  by non_trias_theos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people in this place think that jws break up families.

  they say that since jws df unrepentant baptized members and insist on jw family members restricting association with df members that jws try to break up families.

  what do you think about this charge?.

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  non_trias_theos

  $$$Subverting yes because they put all emphasis on laws.$$$

  Read the text: "these very men keep on subverting households by teaching things they ought not for the sake of dishonest gain" (Titus 1:11). They are apostates.

  $$$Whether to be circumcised or not, what food to eat, etc. the word apostate is not here, it is suggested that these men full of themselves and their yokes are what subvert the faith.$$$

  Read the text. To insist on circumcision and teach things one ought not is heresy. The word does not have to be there.

  $$$They make people think that the laws are the faith. This I am afraid is your belief as well.$$$

  Christians are not law-less. The faith must have certain laws to prevent spiritual anarchy and antinomianism.
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  88

  Is Blood Thicker Dan Water

  by non_trias_theos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people in this place think that jws break up families.

  they say that since jws df unrepentant baptized members and insist on jw family members restricting association with df members that jws try to break up families.

  what do you think about this charge?.

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  non_trias_theos

  $$$the context is the qualifications of elders. The examples were un christian behavior, lying, slander, keeping up jewish myths and commandments of men....16..They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed.$$$

  Paul is talking about qualifications of elders. However notice that he says elders should reprove those who contradict the faith. He is referring to those who have apostate tendecies. Then he talks about those deceivers of the mind who insist on Christians being circumcised. These are the ones subverting households. They are those who, if they do not accept the counsel of loving elders, become apostate.

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  Non worships God and him alone.

  How do you know God is a he?$$$

  God is not really a he. He is not a she either.

  $$$Our family of over 20 years has been severely disrupted because of the Watchtower Society - not because of God, and I pray everyday it is not permanent. I am NOT a JW.$$$

  Jesus said that he came to cause divisions among families. Jws only divide families in the sense that Jesus divided families. We do not try to destroy families by df members.
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  They Persecuted Me

  by non_trias_theos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jesus christ said these telling words.

  and he supplemented them by also saying that his followers would be persecuted as he was persecuted.

  jesus's disciples were persecuted in the first century by a bitter wave of roman persecution.

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  non_trias_theos

  $$$1...They taught me ( when I was one for over 20 yrs) that the United Nations was evil----( then I found out they backed it up for 10 yrs.$$$

  The jw spoke truth. The un is satan's invention. Jw do not back un.

  $$$2.They told me the Pyramids was the next sacred thing to the bible.
  ( then they found out it wasnt)$$$

  You sure you are talking about jw? It sounds like you were studying with the bible students.

  $$$3.they told me Jesus did not have a beard-then they said he did)$$$

  Did you ever peek in the live forever book or other publications? I think you will see Jesus with a beard. He probably did have a beard. The bible does not really say.

  $$$4... they told me that Sodom & Gomorrah was not to be resurrected- then they were,then they werent-then they were.etc:$$$

  That is just called tacking. Have you not heard of Hegel's dialectic?

  $$$5..they said it was right not to have children...now they should.
  ( no vasectomies)$$$

  Do you want a vasectomy? Where do they say you cannot get one? Yo, it is your life. Get all the vasecs you want.

  $$$6..they used to celebrate Christmas, its a no-no now-$$$

  You going back to the olden days. Have you not heard of humans making progress in knowledge? Kinda like medicine and science does?

  $$$7 they used to celebrate birthdays..its a no-no now.$$$

  Give me a break. What does any of your comments have to do with jw spreading lies about others?